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  1. But your best scenario against this guy is to have all your money in against him with the best possible hand. If you are saying you have some reason to think he is going to fold and are calling in order to entice a shove from him or something, seems kinda silly... what better time for him to call a shove then with all that money in the pot?
    ya, thats kinda more along the lines of what im talking about.If you call you are pretty much making sure that the CO comes along for the ride. you are right that even if you shove he will PROBABLY call but if he doesnt then you lost a great opportunity to take advantage of AA against one opponent (in the side pot that is)thanks for your honest response and not just trying to be funny. at least you show that you've atleast read the question
  2. "You have two guys all in already who you will undoubtably be contesting when the board is complete because there is no way you are going to fold to either of their all in bets - simple."LOL
    dude, british guy, why is that funny?Im saying, its obvious that you wont fold. correct? funny for some reason? maybe to you.anyway, even if you shove that statement is still correct. There is no more betting and you have to hold up against those two hands. why is that funny? its just english language used to describe what happens in poker when there are 2 players all in in the same hand against a 3rd guy who is not all in. I dont get your "lol" there
  3. essentially, with this particular situation, you have the opportunity to have two separate contested hands with AA rather than just 1.by bringing in the cutoff, it is like you are hedging your initial investment.Now you see?If you get the cutoff to get his chips in and you beat him you guarantee ~10,000 chips even if you LOSE the main pot.still an INSTASHOVE?still laughing at flatting??dont just say it and laugh. take a minute to think it through.I dont mind if you prove me wrong, just do it with some logical reasoning and explanation.

  4. No, i did not "lose" because this never happened. Do you know what "hypothetical" means?Does anyone in here have any tournament poker sense? Some one must.______________You see, i asked this particular question for a reason.this is not really a "trick" question but it is close. It requires more than just basic thinking that goes with cut n dry poker decisions.This is the essence of situational tournament poker.You have two guys all in already who you will undoubtably be contesting when the board is complete because there is no way you are going to fold to either of their all in bets - simple.The thing here though is that you still have one player left to act behind you who, at this point, you are 100% in the lead or at worst tied (if he also has AA).Since the main pot is not going to have any betting from here on out you must think that now you are re-starting the hand against 1 opponent. You are encouraging anyone to participate in a hand against you when you hold AA and you are guaranteed no other competition.Lets say you do go all in and manage to get the Cutoff caller to fold. You now have the same scenario you are destined to have anyway -- a 3way battle for a stagnant pot with all cards face up. Thats not bad but its not your best option. If you lose this pot there is nothing u can do about it. Thats the way the cards were destined to fall.BUT.....if you bring in this 4th player into the mix, you have a chance to play basically a second hand heads up and AA is a monster heads up as we all know.So, do you guys wanna change your insta-shove opinion or do you see any fault in my analysis???

  5. Hi guys, i've thrown this question around to friends and in other forums because I want to get different views on it. It's a hypothetical situation so the numbers are vague and don't need to be specific.Here is how it goes:_______________________________________________You are in a tourny.You have ~14,000 chips and are UTG with AA.The blinds are 200-400.You raise 3x the bb to 1200. The next few players fold and the cutoff just calls.The button folds.SB goes all in for 2900.BB also shoves all in for 4900.The next player to act is you with only one left behind (the cutoff who called your raise). He has you covered.What do you do?________________________________________________________________________Before i hit the "post topic" button, let me add something.It's not as simple as it may first seem to be. It's very situational.I think the best thing to do is call. Consider the options carefully.thoughts?

  6. I'm not going to be impressed until he wins both Big Daily Double's at FullTilt at the SAME TIME!! :club::ts I keed. I keed. :5c:D Congrats TJ!!! :D :D :4h
    nice job tjman, cardcore, your avatar wrestler gif is nuts. kind of impressive actually. i never thought id say that about pro wrestling
  7. heres another thing I just thought of. People who make the final table in the ME have been in vegas for several weeks at least and are well adjusted to the timezone. Most likely a couple people who final table will be from halfway around the world, and they will have to come back to vegas after several months away to play for 1 day and could be at a huge disadvantage compared to american players because of jetlag
    duuuuuude. No.just no.when you are guarantee FT payouts the last thing you are worried about is taking time off to leave for vegas early to get over the jetlag.rest assured, if any non northamericans make the final they will be in LV waaaay before the FT starts
  8. Bluffing at a dry side pot is only bad in tournaments where you are near some jump in the payout structure (the most obvious being the bubble). At a cash game, --especially in a hand where the allin guy all but gave away that he had nothing, you are simply trying to shut out a (probably) better marginal hand to make it to showdown with a random hand that you have a good chance in beating.
    thats a solid play in my opinion.If you ask me, the guy who acted angry after the river was the one who had bad etiquette cause there was still betting action.just a bunch of whiners imo
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