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Bubba83

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  1. Your bankroll should contain at least 300 big bets. What limits are you looking to play?The only thing I would warn you about is the rake can cut into your results quite bad depending on the size of the stakes and the place you're playing at.I would strongly recommend reading Jennifer Harman's Limit Hold'em section in Super System 2. It helped me the most out of everything I've read for limit.Also Winning Low-Limit Hold'Em by Lee Jones is a strong starter book, infact you'd want to read it before Harman's section in SS2.

  2. No, that's fine.What do you suggest as an alternative line?I mean, we're never folding our set, right?If we check, we risk him taking a free one off with a lone diamond. If we bet, we get to protect our hand from those one card draws, and give him a chance to make a mistake.Do you have any other ideas?(I dunno how this is coming off, but it's not meant to be hostile in any way. I've been in a pissy mood all day tho, so it may come through in my posting.)
    You're not coming off hostile to me, I am always afraid I come off hostile when I get so involved in these strat hands as well, but I personally feed on the arguments and they make me think in many different ways... Unless someone makes something personal it's all just strategy as far as I am concerned.I'm not really suggesting an alternate way to play the turn, I am just saying it can be problematic if we donk-bet the flop and then a situation like that happens where we pretty much have to shove into a possible flush which kinda sucks.I guess it's the main reason why I like a check/raise all in line on the flop as opposed to donk-bet. My read was he wouldn't check behind even if his hand completely missed, so I checked in the actual play of this hand. Button bet $30 (tiny I know) MP2 calls (awesome, our check trapped him in there!) and I raised all-in. Button thinks for a minute and folds, MP2 thinks for like 2 minutes and finally says he can't lay it down and calls with A :) K :D . Turn 10 :D , River 4 :diamond:I rake the large pot, button later claims he folded A :club: Q :diamond:Obviously this situation turned out favorably for me, which is why I posted the hand because I wanted to see if I was off-base with my check-raise all in line. Here's my case for the check/raise all in line:Let's say we have a read on our villain that he will only check behind here like 20% of the time, which quite honestly I think is high for this particular villain. If there is a flush draw out, our villain with the flush draw can't hit the K :D so he has 8 outs on the turn out of a possible 47 cards giving him a 17% chance to pull ahead. That's a parlay of two things that need to happen for us to be behind after the turn, and that parlay will only happen 3.4% of the time. In addition to that, we don't even know if anyone has the flush draw in the first place!Suppose the button surprises me by checking the flop. If a non diamond turn comes, our line is going to be pretty obvious from here on out, so let's suppose the 17% chance diamond that isn't the K :D comes. We've kept the pot a lot smaller now than if we had donked the flop, and can quite possibly A ) Get away from the hand or B ) Limit our losses if a guy hit a flush and bets small or C ) Catch an opponent bluffing on perceived weakness.Have I made a strong enough case for a check/raise all-in line on the flop? If you don't think so, please tell me why and make sure to counter the points I have just presented.
  3. Plus the read is that the villain is solid, I don't think it's 89 either and prefer check/call on river. Unless you think our villain will raise us on the turn with KQ/KJ after getting 3-bet on the flop, which based on the solid read I don't think he does.

  4. Let's assume UTG has the top 30.2% of all hands since he just limped giving him hands as bad as K6s, A5o.MP Raises so we'll give him the top 20.4% which gives him hands down to T9s.Button calls and we'll give him the top 25.2% of hands which includes holdings as weak as A7o.According to PokerStove 99 has 29% equity against those rather generous hand ranges.

  5. As for not leading the turn, I had already decided that if I checked and there was a bet from one of the other players in the pot that it would be highly likely that one of them had me beat, no question about it. Rather than pay a bet on the turn to find out where I'm at, I can check and pay attention to the action and accomplish the same thing, only cheaper.
    I don't think it's highly likely you're beat just because UTG overcalled the flop, what about 55+? Do you think he leads those on the flop most of the time instead? It kind of depends how savvy he is as well. He could have overcalled with the sole intention of running a bluff.
  6. Without reading replies...I play preflop the same.I vary what I do on the flop, sometimes leading out for $150, sometimes check/calling, rarely check/raising.Since UTG overcalled on a flop that contains no drawing possibilities, I would lead the turn because I want to find out where I am at against UTG's hand. Also, Button could now have a draw with a hand like KJ that I don't want him checking behind, since for all we know Button could easily have just tried to pick up the pot on the flop in which case he will not follow through with a bet on the turn. Given how the flop was played, I lead for about $400 on the turn in that situation.The rest of the hand changes too much based on the $400 lead I would make depending on what the opponents do, so I can't comment on the river in that situation.As played with the turn checking through, I like the river fold unless you have a read on UTG that he limps some marginal hands UTG like A4, or a queen less than or equal to Q9, also if he often limps KK or AA your hand might be good, but it costs a lot into what turned out to be a rather small pot to find out...Edit: I'm with everyone else on the give us some reads thing, even if you've only played with your villains for an hour you should have some small understanding of how they play. Without reads, it's really hard to gauge how strong UTG might be.

  7. Instead of calling it standard 5-handed to 3-bet 99 preflop in worst position, please give me some reasonings. You can easily make a case for it being the best hand at the time but when more than one villain is likely going to have hands like AQ JK QT, we're a big dog to have our hand still be good after a flop unless we flop a set, which only happens 1 in 8 times and if we 3-bet we're not getting 8 to 1 more on our raise. The only good part I can see about 3-betting is perhaps to get BB to fold, but does that make that much of a difference when we're likely looking at a no set no bet situation?

  8. I think postflop is fine, but how come no one has commented on preflop?I would just call preflop as opposed to 3-betting. With this many players in we're going to have to flop a set to be good postflop most likely, so why bloat the pot out of position when this will only happen 1 in 8 times?

  9. I'm with Tortuga on this one... I raise the flop because it's a shorthanded game and I will do this with a lot of hands if I had preflop lead. At this point he would probably have 3-bet the flop in which case you could call and plan to raise the turn. As played, I would cap the turn and may even raise/call if he leads river with the read you have. Even if we got 3-bets in on the flop I would cap the turn, but may just call a donk on the river. Obviously if he checks river we bet and call a check/raise.

  10. For those of you that want to lead the flop for about 2/3 - 3/4 the pot here, consider the following theoretical situation:Preflop: Hero is dealt 6 :) 6 :D in Hi-Jack, MP2 raises to $15, Hero calls, CO folds, Button re-raises to $30 total, MP2 calls, Hero calls.Flop: K :D T :club: 6 :D ($94 in pot)MP2 checks, Hero bets $65, Button calls, MP2 folds.Turn: 3 :D ($224 in pot)Hero...We have $183 left in our stack, and button has us covered. What hand ranges do we put Button on? What is our line?

  11. If you're still reading Daniel, I am curious to know more about the flop. I see you were going for a smooth call hoping button raises and traps SB in the middle for at least 3-bets, but I am wondering if you had some kind of read that button was definitely going to raise or what. How often does button have to raise to make this play worth it? It's just scary to me to give the button a chance to smooth call with a hand like Qc Kc etc.Looking at results, I doubt your decision to smooth call the flop made you any bets given the opponents hands in this instance, as I think if you had raised you're getting 3-bet by button or called, and SB is going wild with any chance he gets. I think the flop line would be best if two conditions are true: #1 is that you must know the button raises your smooth call A LOT, and #2 is that the guy you're trying to trap in the middle has a hand he likes, but won't call two cold with. If we think he'll call two cold, we should raise the flop instead to charge the draws.

  12. I would never jam the flop with a draw in that type of situation actually. The only real reason to jam a draw on the flop would be that you could also possibly win the pot as a semi-bluff.
    What about jamming for value in a three way pot where you have a 40%+ish chance to win even against sets?Also: I raise the flop without some significant reads on button. If button has KK, QQ etc he's not raising behind us unless he's a nutbar for example
  13. This particular min-raisers range isn't as narrow as AA KK QQ JJ AK necessarily with the read I have on him from the other small re-raises he has made preflop, and generally large open raises he has made with good but not great hands. It seems like there is some discussion of whether it is better to donk bet or check/raise here, which is what I was hoping for.The benefit of donk-betting would be to ensure it doesn't get checked through. I don't think this opponent would check after leading preflop very often at all, but I haven't had that much time playing with him either. The donk-bet can also make him commited if he raises it with AK, KQ, or AA, which is nice. There are two downsides I can see. If he just calls, then MP2 gets great odds if he's drawing to a flush or even has something like QJ. That's not too big of a problem though because he's only seeing one card before I jam the turn if that happens. The other downside to donk-betting is that if Button raises, it's going to for sure knock out MP2 if he has a hand like QQ, JJ, AT, KQ, KJ, or perhaps he may even fold AK here with a bet and a raise in front.The benefits of check raising can help create a larger pot if the Button bets, and MP2 calls before we jam. Ahhh I have to go in the middle of this post but please continue the discussion!

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