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JT. People way overvalue JT in 3bet pot IP You can mumble how bad you run after he flips over JT, but when you've checked the turn you must shove.

If you do call and club falls then you have no other choice but to fold to a bet.If a blank falls and villain checks you should bet/call. There's very little chance he checks the turn with set on this board.> Non club facing action?It's the ugliest part. Main thing is that you have position and you can re-evaluate based on his actions/bet sizes.IMO: raise to 150$ (& fold to shove) > call > raise to 100$ >>> fold

Isn't the raise a bit on small side? Villain needs to call 60 to win 230. I'd rather just call than raise giving them immediate odds to draw (while bloating the pot).

IMO our hand looks a lot like a Kx that decided to c/c river as all draws missed. He would have to overbet the river to have any FE, and I doubt he does it big % of time. But maybe I'm giving villain too much credit.

+1Bet size would be the same as I'd take with really thin valuebet. Prob around 80-100. Small enough to let draws bluff raise and pairs to call.Would he really bet draws so much more often than raise weak blocking bet, so that checking would be best line?

UTG fish might be reason enough to get involved with marginal holding PF. No?

6 8 or A 3 :diamond:But as you're not crazy as Simo then I'll go with the nuts.Being the button I'd be so confused I'd shove my entire range except stone cold bluffs. Equity wise: everything that has decent (30%+) equity over 99-TT

I kind of agree. This size will give us nice PSB on turn, but... On complete blank turn e.g 5 I think this opponent does not find fold button very often. Ace is the best card for us (that doesn't complete our draw). OP read was that villain didn't like folding turns.As default play OP played it perfect. Now I'm not suggesting anymore but asking: can anything be done differently because of OP read, Snamuh?

Without falling into all of the turn discussion (where I agree that shove is only move there) I want to come back to flop.OP: why did you decide to 3 bet 87 vpip guy and not 29 vpip guy (it obv should've been other way around). Adding the fact that Ama theorem applies here I like b/c on flop or 3bet allin.Bet/call will give us chance to draw and get paid because villain doesnt like fold button.3bet shove gets us actually value against his range as he might call you down with bottom pair. Why aren't we cbetting this flop? I suppose you meant b/c

I 3bet this flop as default play (especially as we're OOP) unless I have a read that opponent is CS and I have no FE. Actually if I don't want to 3bet this flop then I'd c/r it instead.Leading the turn might through villain off as we shouldn't have many 4s in our range, so it's fine. I prefer CRAI on turn (normal c/r looks more like a boat and we don't want to over-rep our big hand).

Do you want to play for stacks here? If yes, bet the turn. If not then: * betting the turn gets value from draws * checking the turn gets a little more value from made hands on river. * number of made hands far outweighs the number of draws in his rangePlayed fine IMO.

vpip 60 guy has lot of twopairs in his range that he thinks he's betting for value. Hell he even might think his slowplayed AA is good here. Raise to 25$ and call a shove.

Those statements are little contradictional. Or you have too narrow 4bet range. Flatting 3bet with KK 200bb deep is std (granted, we're IP)?

Why is pot-controlling with those hands (KK-AA, AQ) necessary here? It's 3bet pot where he has TPTK+. He should like to get it in. It would be paranoid to put hero on set based on flop action (c/c such a small bet with set would be mistake). He might pot control with KQ though.I agree with OP here that river bet is monster or hand we beat. So question is: how often does he get out of line on river?Do we like blocking bet on river?

1.25$ is minimum PF (3bb + limpers). Id' make it 1.5$ at least (maybe more, if i'm positive MP will call more).I'd pot the flop against 2 stationy fish.Turn is meh. How often do you think SB c/r TP on flop? SB range is really strong here (sets mostly). Fold.

wat?What was THE question here? There were multiple questions and I answered the one I felt comfortable with. As OP hinted for each and every board that the default action is check for him, I had a legit question: "why is that?". I donk lead a lot myself and would probably end up donking 1st (depends on read on opponent e.g cbet %) and 3rd because I wouldn't like to play turn & river when they're checked through on flop.

4% 3betting range is pretty narrow but here it's probably much wider: LAG opens from CO and villain is OTB. I think he 3bets closer to 10% in this case. I'm 4betting for value against 10% 3bet range. If you think he doesn't adjust against your lagginess then calling is fine.Why don't you lead on any of those boards?

Probably didn't put you on 44 but on some kind of midpair (77-99). With history he might be leveling you by repping a bluff (or A high) with TT-JJ (both of which will go for pot control on turn). I think range of A high is too narrow here.

PF 3bet is too small IMO. I'd make it 1.4-1.5$

VPIP 43 is not specific but it's a read. There are a lot more of A combos than there is flush combos and I think at least 50% of time he calls a raise with A. Even if he only pays off you 15% of times with straight it's still +EVResults from http:\\www.HoldEmRanger.com 175 evaluations, 175 hole card combosBoard: Kh Jc Qd 7d TdWins Ties Equity56.68% 0.00% 56.68% ( 8d9d ) 43.32% 0.00% 43.32% ( A2+(15), Kd2d+, Qd2d+, Jd2d+, Td2d+, Ad2d+ )

What about his WTSD stat? I think with so big river aggression WTSD will reveal his range. If its anything greater than 20 then you can't take naked J out of his range.

Nice bump, I was wondering where the line came from. Having read the quote before the thread made me think of the quote before I reached Acid post. NH

Donking turn is never for value but only as bluff. I don't see many hands that I can rep: * sets - would have donked or c/r the flop * flush - could be but I'd discount the probability because FD would have again donked or c/r * AK - yes, but + it would have 3betted PF some % of time + it only gets villain off AQ, so only half value in bluffMost likely holding for me after donking the turn would be A and villain can continue with everything that has me beat meaning bluff doesn't work here.Bluffing in NL10 is pretty spewy anyhow.

Yeah, agreed. What about blocking the river for 3$ (and folding to shove)? It should get value from AT/AJ.

Probably the biggest mistake of the hand - not donkbetting. I use donkbetting alot, this time i chose immediate value over making it easier to play on later streets. I'd hate c/r without a lot of history because it folds out every hand that I beat (except maybe FD).