DanielNegreanu
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The event starts tomorrow, and we'll likely have anywhere from 20 to 40 of the best limit hold'em players in the world playing heads up matches. I'm really excited about this event and will be posting the bracket and results as they come in.
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I'd like to correct my moderater a little bit on this one. Tobey is an accomplished player on his own, I didn't coach him in any way. We have discussed poker at great length but I wouldn't go as far as to say that I "taught" him now to play. In fact, everytime I play in the private game I get my butt kicked!
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Blinds: 200-400Ante: 25Stack Size: 14,000Hand: A-9 off suitPosition: Cutoff seat (next to the button) Everyone folds to you at a 9 handed table and you make it 1200 to go. The button folds, and the small blind goes all in for a total of 4000, 2800 more to you. You have minimal information as to your opponents tendencies, but you assume that he has a decent hand. Do you make the call, or do you move onto the next hand?
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One of the shows I shot has been aired already, but I also did several more. Leading up to the semi-finals I'm actually fillin in for Chad Brown, and my guest co-hosts will be Evelyn Ng and Matt Savage. After those shows air, Chad and I will be back in the booth to do the semi-finals together.
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The problem with the show not being picked up yet was two fold:1) The ratings. They couldn't possibly have been any good going up againt the Yankees-Red Sox, The Cardinals and the other guys lol, and the Presidential Debate. The Travel channel was being s little short sighted I think when they looked at the ratings alone without factoring in the competition in that time slot.2) The Travel channel may want to say the Travel Channel. I'm not sure they really want to turn the whole channel into a gambling channel. Since they love ratings though, they should realize that not only is the WPT their highest rated show, their second and third highest rated shows are Vegas Casino Secrets and the like. If it ain't broke... :wink:
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I completely agree with your reasoning here. It makes perfect sense based on what we'd agree that the small blind is limping in with. However, against an opponent with ideal play, checking here is incorrect. That's not true. In fact I assumed that the player in the big blind was good enough to understand that checking was the correct play. I was the guy in the small blind and I limped so that I could have an extra life if the flop missed me horribly. I would have limped there with ANY hand! Raising from the SB in a tournament would be foolish, even with AA! You would get called 100% of the time and have to race. Since winning the middle is so much more valuable than adding 2000 more to my stack, I'd rather try to force my opponent out on the flop thus giving myself optimal opportunity to win the pot. The reason is this:If your opponent were to have gone all-in immediately, he knows that he'd be guaranteed a call, given your current pot odds. He is therefore giving you an option that he doesn't have to. As enticing as the stop-and-go play may seem, it is not beneficial in this situation. Your opponent must have a hand such that getting to the flop is beneficial. He assuredly has no better than 7 high, and is planing a stop-and-go himself if the flop merits it. Again I disagree. The optimal play is to limp with ANY hand so assuming the SB has 7 high has little merit.To understand why checking must be an error against an opponent who is playing correctly, consider this analogy. One day your friend offers to bet you $5,0oo that Osama Bin Laden is hiding in his basement. You have no reason to believe this, and put odds on your friends statement being true at 10,000,000,000,000:1 against. You still probably shouldn't take this bet because your friend has no incentive to make a $5,000 wager which he knows he will lose. Similiarly, your opponent is offering you the option to check, and invite play on the flop when he could easily have forced you to call his all-in pre-flop. Even if you strongly believe that this option will benefit you, if your opponent is acting rationally then it will not. Unfortunatley that analogy doesn't apply well to this situation. With the Bin Laden scenario he is either hiding in the basement or he isn't. It's cut and dry. With poker, EVEN if you are right about your opponent's hand being weak it doesn't mean you will win the pot. 7-2 beats A-K all the time!Once again, many tournament players will not give this much though to the situation before limping in, so checking to the flop may be the better option against the average Joe.Oh, and I forgot to mention, thanks for this little brain-teaser!
Thanks for the reply Aaron. I really admire the amount of thought you put into your post (even though I disagreed). It truly shows me that you are thinking outside the box and that is the sign of a world class thinker.Aaron -
Well I have to say that I was a little surprised that the majority of you got this one wrong. It's not debateable really, it's clear there is a correct choice and an incorrect one. The key thing to remember is that we are talkng about tournament poker here. In tournament poker the most important thing to consider is winning what's in the middle in marginal situations. So what's the best way to do that? Well if we go all in before the flop with the nine high our opponent can't possible fold. So in essense, we'd be letting the small blind off the hook by giving him five free cards and we have... nine high? This is a VERY important concept you need to add to your reportoire: think about saving your bulletsforlater use. Here's why: Let's say the SB has a hand like J-4 of diamonds. If you move all in pre-flop he'll call and you'll have a race. Not a horrible situation but the other option is better. So you check your 9-7 and the flop comes down Q-8-K. If your opponent checks now you make have a chane to bluff him off the best hand. Even if you had him beat with your nine high and all he had was 5-6 for example, you'd still be better off winning what's in the middle rather than losing the whole pot to a 5 or a 6 on the river. Make sense?
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The piece will probably air in January, but I will be sure to let you all know exactly when.
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The forum just opened today and I was expecting "maybe" a total of 20 posts. It's not even 5pm and ther are already 200 posts. Wow. Obviously there are simply too many posts for me to go over myself but I'll do my best to be as active as I can. In the meantime I'm working on a better way to answer all of the questions directed to me personally. That announcement will be made sometime next week.
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Here is your chance to discuss why I made certain plays that I made, or basically anything else you found interesting about any of my tv appearances.
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On this week's episode of Inside the NFL on HBO, Bob Costas said thefollowing:Bob Costas: "Why do so many of us, not neccessarily on this program, but televisionin general make the mistake of confusing bafoonish and loudish behaviourwith colorful behaviour. Colorful and quirky characters are the lifeblood of sports, but over the last many years we've seen guys who are justlouts and television flocks to them. We can't get enough of them. We wantto document their every utterance which is almost always dopey."Chris Collinsworth: "You understand why, ratings. They drive ratings what else can you say." Now I have a question for you all: If I didn't tell you that it was BobCostas who said it and that he was talking about football, wouldn't youhave bet your last dollar that he was talking about poker? It amazed mehow well Bob's comments related directly to what we are seeing in thepoker world today. I'll add my own two cents: It's human nature for people to want to berecognized which often translates to wanting to be on TV. In the pokerworld, there are definitely ways to ensure that you will get on the air. Acting like a bafoon will absolutely GUARANTEE that you will getnoticed. If you want to be a memorable character on TV, you can come upwith a bagful of gimmicks: Dress up in a pink chicken suit and you'll get camera time.Beat your chest like a gorilla and scream "I'm the best player in theworld!!!" again they'll air it.Throw a temper tantrum when you lose... they'll air it. What's seems so much less interesting is a kid like Gavin Griffin. Theyoungest WSOP winner in history who behaved well beyond his years at thetable. Was extremely polite and well spoken. Didn't talk any trash,didn't parade around the table doing a victory dance. That kind of thingjust doesn't sell tickets. It does however earn you a great deal of respect from your peers in thepoker community. Bafoonery will ensure two things: 1)camera time, and 2)distain from your peers. I guess this message goes out to all of the new young stars of our game. There are ways to get your due respect from the media... keep winning. And there are ways to earn the respect of your peers in the poker world,do it humbly. There is nothing wrong with being excited. There is nothing wrong with being fun and colorful.When doing so, ALWAYS be mindful of your opponents feelings and the wayyour behaviour will be percieved. If you abide by that simple rule, youwill have the best of both worlds.
The 25K Limit Hold'em Head Up
in Tournament Play
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Here are the Brackets:Jeff LisandroBruno FitoussiCarlos MortensonErick(123) SagstromEli ElezraDaniel NegreanuErick LingrenJohn (jdags) D'AgostinoBarry GreensteinJennifer HarmanMimi TranDavid OppenheimJohn JuandaAllen CunninghamHoward LedererCraig Singer Some interesting matches for sure, I think Barry vs Jennifer will be tough, and I like Allen to beat up on JJ
Structure: Each player starts with 50,000 in chips, one hour levels:400-800600-1200800-16001000-20001500-30002000-40003000-6000