Jordan

I don't enjoy playing at Party poker anymore myself. If I play online I try to keep it at UB (atleast the majority of my $). UB plays much tighter than Party, but the suckouts seem to happen less. Just my opinion, I'm sure there is a counter-argument, but play where you know you win and where your game is working.Or it may just be a bad run of cards. That happens as I'm sure we all know.- Jordan

What's your name on UB. Mine is Jord4n - not there much now cuz of connection issues...but add me to your ultimate buddy list if you want and msg me sometime.- Jordan

It was a bad play because you decided to risk your tournament life on K6o. Smash's point on his first post on this thread is attack the small stacks. Leave the large stacks alone. You tangle with the big stacks when you have a clear edge, not on your perceived ability to read your opponent.I agree somewhat. I will obviously use this as a lesson and be more careful when making a move against a big stack. However, it's not something I won't do when I believe my opponent will fold 90% of the time. And I was that certain he would fold to any bet I put on the turn. Again, call it unlucky, stupid

Maybe you aren't reading everyone else's posts.I'll try to spell it out for you as simply as possible.Mistake no 1 - You put in a bluff on the basis of your read on your opponent. Your read was wrong and therefore you made a bad play. Mistake no 2 - Your all-in bet screamed bluff and therefore your opponent got a read on you and called. Why are those two points so difficult for you to understand?Mistake no 3 - was when you posted on here trying to get people to tell you what a great player you were with your bad play.Mistake no4 - was when you started to take on Smash - many have tried, al

Yea I don't understand how some people consider it reading their opponent or their opponent getting "lucky." I don't know how he got "lucky." You weren't playing against a machine, you were playing against anouther human being who is capable of making reads just as good as you are, and apparently a little better. You knew he was going to attack your blind, but he also must have known you were going to defend it no matter what and most likely even try to make a move. If you can be confident about K high, your opponent can't be confident about a pair of 4s? He's not calling your all in unless h

Yea, you're right. I should have re-raised preflop or on the flop. That is what I think I did "wrong" this hand, and believe it was "unlucky" for him to catch his 3rd pair on the turn, otherwise I would have won the pot no contest.Apparently he did "read" me as being weak. But I watched him put in his chips and let me tell you I've done the same kinda call before and I know the feeling. He wasn't super confident in his call(kinda that crying call), which is fine, but I know he was relieved to see me turn up K high.I just don't think many people will call with 3rd pair here(less that 90%), some

I had been at the table with him for a while...I knew he would lead the pot on the flop and slow down once i called him. I can't give you a 100% for sure reason, I just felt that my king high was good after the flop or I'd dump it right away.I should have gone over the top of him right away probably, but, to be sure of my "read" or "belief" I wanted to make sure he'd slow down on the turn.If he would have fired again, I would have folded as I couldn't have gotten him off the hand with a re-raise. His check indicated weakness, yet he still called with his pair of 4s. That's fine, but I know he

Thanks for realizing it's a waste of time.- Jordan

"How do I fare online? Wow, I just might be the worst online poker player in the world! LOL. "That is actually what she said. I doubt her complete sincerity (def. not the worst), but it prooves the point. A big part of the live game is not in the online game. Human contact, interaction, which is obviously a big part of her game and success.- Jordan

Smash, what you said can be true, "if you dont play well online you dont play well live" - but there are parts of the game missing in both genre's. Again, as I said, and this may be lame of me, however, Jennifer Harmon herself said her online game is much worse than her live game (in this forum). I am only using her cuz she is a pro and someone you'd prob listen to because of that fact. Not coming from a lowly peon like myself.Miss harmon, if you read this, I mean no disrespect in using your "quote".- Jordan

It's not a bad play cuz of the results. And it's not a good play cuz of the the results.I've made many poor plays, decisions actions at a table. I don't believe this to be one of them. Sorry.- Jordan

Profitable? I'll do it 10 times a tournament and never be called.Christ man. We play differently. I believe i bluffing. I bluff when I think someone is weak. Occasionally I'm caught. I'm not hyper aggressive. I pick spots. I picked a spot against the chip leader. He called me with third pair. Boo hoo. I'll do it again, I do it again, and again, and again, until I play with someone whom I read is strong. I can't give you how many times out of ten. I gave you one hand when it went wrong. Would you like a cash game example of when I made a guy fold top pair A9 to my 2nd pair of KQ for 75 on the r

This is the first time I've been called when making this play, other than the first month of poker I played when I had no understanding of the game. Perhaps that was why I was upset he had called as I hadn't been caught for a while.You aren't giving my posts any credit. So you must not give me any credit. So I think I'm done with you in relation to this post. Good luck.- Jordan

Please stop antaganizing me and my overall game as you do not know me or have any idea about me. If I have done the same to you, I will stop as I am ignorant as well.I dislike online play compared to live play. Thanks.Perhaps I could have bet half my stack? I'm not sure though, then I would have been committed. All in was my only decision (22k was all i had, pot was about 20k) I think, or checking, but I wasn't giving up on the pot (obviously).- Jordan

Ok.Very simply.Going with my read on him.When I called the flop, I thought I would be telling him..."hey I picked up probably a pair of 9s here (since that would have been 2nd pair), or maybe even a weak 10 and you better check/fold that turn to my bet cuz you're beat"As i said, i don't make the play often...only when I think I can get the man to fold.The blinds were moving fast, I dont enjoy playing super tight late rounds and waiting for huge hands. I'm the aggressor cuz most others are scared.When he checked to me, I felt he was surrendering the pot. Bad read? Maybe. Will the majority fold

Nah, I thought my read was right on. I was actually very suprised he called with his 4s...good read for him, and ballsy.He must have trapped me with that third pair. Damn.- Jordan

Yea. I'm the best player in the world cause I can do a slow bluff.Look out when you play me, I read you like a book and bluff a lot with king high.I guess I'll only bluff now with ace high.- Jordan

Sir. I didn't think he hit the 4. He checked to me. Most people check, unless they are trapping, and surrender a pot. I don't know many people that check with third pair. He got me.I'll do it again to him, maybe he'll call me down again. Oh, and yes, on the flop..I knew King high was good. No seriously. I did. What now? Lol.- Jordan

Well I found a reason. TO get persons like you to debate me. You obviously like to play cards? Top pair, Top kicker? That's a fine strategy, but it won't win you tournaments when your heads up with a big stack...however bluffing a big stack and getting called down won't either.I guess my main reason of posting was to be told, good move, bad results..try raising the flop, etc...I won't sit here and be told it was a bad play just cause you think so. I believe it was the only play to make, or never call a 5k raise preflop with K6. Unless of course I picked something up from him on the flop or tur

SO if he folds there is it still a "horrible" play. LoL.Many people fold 3 third pair...and many people check/fold when called on the flop with nothing even tho they turned third pair, and out of position.- Jordan

I can't explain it. I knew I had the best hand on the flop. SO I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE RAISED. That's my fault.This was live poker. I was looking this guy in the face. I knew King high was good. I'm sorry that I can't explain it, maybe I'm just pissed he called me with third pair. Either way, I can't see you berating a play I made just cause you don't seem to have the a) balls to do it, B) idiocity to do it or c) you play cards?I don't know and I won't assume. But I'm sure it's one of the above?- Jordan

I've never done that, but I have called someone's all in bet on the flop with two over cards when I was holding a small pair. (6-6) Flop was A 7 3 I believe.Great write? Well my post has about the same meaning as your does. Nothing. Both are irrelevant.- Jordan

Uhm, I don't make that play unless I think I have the correct read. What do you want from me? Would you like me to post all the times I've done this with a high card and taken the pot down? Geez man. - Jordan

ROFL. Horrible play, always? You have got to be joking me.You've never called someone's flop bet just to take it from them on the turn? What the hell man? Do you just play cards?Seriously.- Jordan

This I can agree with...but all in was really my only move I think. The only other option was to bet half my stack and be committed. Maybe he would have folded for 11k(even though there would have been over 15k going into the turn), or pushed me back in? Either way I would be seeing the river.I'm not an "all in" type player. I really think I had him outplayed and all I had to do was bet to take the pot. - Jordan