Avaron
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this is so stupid that i don't know how to answer.is stis still an intelligent political discussion?stupid article... -
taht's so true. everytime something like this comes up and the press and everybody starts: "zomg, he/she wasted money, he/she must be corrupt, how can he/she do this, that's so arrogant" and so on, i think: "shut the hell up. everybody would do the same, if he were in the position to do so!" it's the same with managers milions in bonuses or compüensations. everybody hates them, especially since the crisis, but then nobody would turn it down, if they were in the same position. and since i already used one chris jericho quote, here's another: people are hippocrites!^^We say one thing as a society, but really want another. -
to be fair, Brown might be more in danger than our health minister, since a lot of germans probably heard her name for the first time because of this stupid affair^^to be serious: was obama on a private trip there? because non of our politician would get away with something like this if they weren't at least on their way to something important like g8 summit or something else.but then again, it's something different with your potus and especially obama, i guess...You haven't seen the Al Qaeda videos condemning Gordon Brown to death or burning an effigy of the German health minister? You just haven't been paying attention. -
so right. same here. when bush and later obama went to germany they basically blocked whole cities, keeping everyone inside their homes for days. save to say the people weren't amused. no politician in germany could do this. we even go after our health minister, just because she used her official car with driver during holidays in spain and didn't properly billed it.Your post shows, about as clearly as possible, the difference between the attitudes towards our countries' elected leaders.Obama blocks every road for miles, causing everyone to be delayed, have their cars towed and have their access denied and gets lauded for it.If Gordon Brown did anything like this everyone would just be saying how utterly ridiculous it is and get mad that they've been put out of their way at the taxpayers expense. -
why? because i dare to question the superiority of the usa?i have to admit, i don't know your healthcare system very well. but from what i've read, i'd take ours over yours every day.I want to flip out but I think this has to be a level... -
that's a rumor...You do know that the US has the absolute best healthcare in the entire world, and is at the forefront of all things medical including the CDC which moniters the health of the entire word? -
this. and i can't help thinking that people who transfer everything they fear or don't like to something the nazis did are really stupid. shows that they simply don't know what they're talking about.I don't think the Nazi thing is a mainstream republican tactic. But it is still worth pushing back against. I am not offended by very many things, but I find that the whole thing totally trivializes what the Nazis actually did, and that's something worth protecting against. Nazi cannot be reduced to "group with bad health insurance policy". -
He blogged about it already. And I totally agree with him.
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actually, they don't. they "represent" the people of gaza, which is the only piece of land they have control over. fatah controls westbank and the plo is still the only recognized representation of the palestenians
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did i miss the part where obama said: "oh, and by the way: don't bother thinking about how to spend the money!"?
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don't play the bible card. i hate these pseudo-historic arguments why one country has territorial claims or not. if one would use that argument on the usa, the us would have no right to exist whatsoever. the european countries could be in constant war, if they would fight about historic territorial claims.it's not like there's not enough room for israels and palestinians. both sides are just stubborn, simply speaking. the israelis don't want the palestenians living in the land they claim to be theirs because some ancient book, and the palestenians are upset because the "invasion" (from their view).someday someone one both sides just needs to realize that no land is worth so much killing and settle the whole thing..........oh wait.....im speaking about mankind here......Technically, it was Israel's land taken from them by others. The people living there were just the only people living there at the time. And a large number of them were Jews.Israel made that land something wonderful. It was nothing before they came.They speak of it in the Bible when they say the land will be turned into green lands with flowers and food growing. You know, out of the barren sand that was their before the Jews turned it into a beautiful country.
being an arabic tv station doesn't make it bad.No need...it's al jazzzzeera -
qft. most intelligent post in this thread so far.and they already built a wall, they bombed civilians with phosphor(sp?), they marked palestinians and muslims in israel as 2nd class citizens. and somewhere i read that the more extremist politicians in israel even want to built detention centers to put them in. i don't want to be harsh, but doesn't ring a bell here somewhere?now i'm not going to question israels right to exist (to be exact, there were jewish settlements in that era in the early 20th sentury long before an official state was founded). i'm just thinking about a way to solve the situation peacefully. and since a couple years ago almost every muslim state (except iran, of course), even egypt, agreed to accept a two state solution, it's up to israel to make a few concessions to stop all the terror and killing in that region.@john waters: i get the feeling that your whole argument is based on the asumption hat one people is better than the other (see: "dark age muslim states" <--> "sophisticated state"). you're dead wrong. and i hear a bell ringing there, too.i don't recall the palestinians having much of a say when the west created israel out of relative thin air.granted, the two groups have basically been fighting for thousands of years over the same general area, but the creation of israel in the 20th century was the first time that outside groups just came in, took a bunch of land, and gave it to one side. if i was a palestinian, i'd be pretty pissed off, too. i mean, land is a big part of what pretty much every war in history has been about in some manner or another, so it's not like their "instigation" lacks precedent.it's going to be pretty much impossible to fix that quagmire with any sort of even semi-permanence unless both sides are willing to cede a bit of jerusalem to the other, and i just don't see either side willing to do that for the foreseeable future.but israelis look more like white people than palestinians, so it's more likely that palestinians are at fault. -
sam grizzle and daniel n next to each other? fun guaranteed. damn, i'd love to watch this^^
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be careful of the 3 dangerous partners and the secret fifth floor!oh wait.... that was memphisnevermind;)congratz anyways^^
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do i really have to specify that? kinda illogic to give obama the benefit of recovering the economy if it happens in the second term of his successor, right?Wait, so if the economy ever recovers at any point in the future, we have to say it was because of Obama's stimulus plan? Even if all the things Obama promised in the meantime turn out to be wrong? LOL.
(unless of course, his successor is a total dumbass who doesn't get anything right and going. but i doubt the GOP would be that stupid and let Sarah Palin rund for president...^^)
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that's not what i said. more like that:"So we should just let the government do whatever they think and see what happens...because there's nothing we can do until the next election."(unless you want to overtake the governement by force, of course...)That's the way it works in a democracy: you have to live with the consequences after an election. you have to trust* the representatives you vote for. if that doesn't work anymore, what's the point in democracy at all? kinda sad to see a problem with that in the country that invented the whole thing...*or at least trust the law enforcement to make sure foul apples get caught...So we should just let the government do whatever they think and see what happens...because otherwise we are being difficult?I think there might be a flaw in your suggestion. -
maybe. but then, what if 5 years from now al the predictions will be proven wrong and the bailouts work and the economy is going strong again - strong enough to work off the debts the bailouts caused? then all the economists and really smart people were wrong.all i'm saying is, that we have to be patient. nothing to do with obama, if there were another president, it would be the same.The unemployment rate rising like it has in the graph is a predictable immediate effect of the Obama Economic Wrecking Ball. If you don't believe it, go back through this thread and the bailout threads and look what the businessmen from this very board have been saying this whole time. Businessmen need to plan. They don't just wake up in the morning and say "I wonder if I should hire someone to meet today's demands?". They engage in both short term and long term planning. And a big part of that plan is predictions on what the business environment will be like in six, 12, 24, 60 months. And when Obama announced his plan to raise taxes on business and redirect money from productive parts of the economy to people with political connections, the business community unanimously saw bad things coming. When taxes go up, they stop hiring because they can't afford it. So a lot of jobs that would've been filled in the last 4 months have been left unfilled because companies see their profits disappearing in a wave of pork spend-and-tax programs. Plus, if the business was a low-cost producer, they are likely to be hurt by the "stimulus" package, because the very nature of the program is to reward the weak and tax the strong -- a double whammy to a good business.So yes, the actual dots on the chart match the predictions of all real economists and all the really smart people who posted when all these stimulus and bailout plans were first announced. It's pretty basic economics, but it appears to be beyond the grasp of Obama, Pelosi, Reid, et al. -
@henry: patience is gold these days. results of this "economy wrecking pork" will show after a year at the earliest. and even then you'll be only able to see if obama's policy was able to counteract the worst effects of the crisis. then there are still the aftereffects to deal with before one could even dream about having this crisis solved.well, i think what i'm saying is: we can only judge obama's work after his first term is over. or at least after 2 years. until then, there's nothing we can do.okay, we could waste time with predicting what's going to happen and rambling on about what is wrong and everything...On the other hand, economists with brains actually predicted the actual trend that we are seeing, and I've been explaining why since the bill passed. Why Obama continues to get a pass on this economy wrecking pork is beyond me. He was clearly wrong, the results are starting to show. The people who predicted bad results were clearly right. -
i was waiting for this... -.-on the other hand, the good news is that the Taliban may ultimately be responsible for the downfall of Islam. once the world decides that we absolutely cannot allow the ideology to gain any power whatsoever we will have to finally take efforts to get rid of it. this whole "oh its just the extremists who are perverting the nice kind religion" bologna can't last for too long. -
and even #3 is flawed, but i'm tired of discussing about economy.can we at least agree to judge his work after at least a year? some things take time.Only #3 is a legitimate complaint. That gives you a 25% which is an F. -
don't forget jews and blacksI thinks it is a known fact though that most corruption is committed by democrats.and woman.Oh and liberal lawyers -
oh well. corruption is as old as humanity. has nothing to do with political parties.Link to storyOnce again a democrat multi millionaire works the system to get more money for herself, on the backs of the people who were caught up by the foolish belief in the democrats promises to bring in a new era of responsibility and ethics.The real story will be the ignoring of this by Obama -
i hope so^^are you a real person? -
don't you think that we are bound in honor not to use methods like that, because we're supposed to be the good guys and teach the world about morality? (irony inside after the comma)
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so? much ado about nothing?