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Live mtt, 30 minute levels
My image had been super tight but about 15 minutes before forced to show A4 suited calling an all in after a cutoff raise, people acted surprised. I had 3-bet pre 3 times in two hours, once showing aces others no showdown.
Small blind fairly active player, taking advantage of his old guy persona by opening light.
My stack 107k, villain 75k
Blinds 500/2000/4000
I open to 10,500 in MP2 with 99
Folds to small blind who raises to 30k
Pros and cons of folding, flattng and jamming?
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Lol I love two people commenting that the hand seems fake, you gotta love the Hustler Casino in Los Angeles! I will try to post more interesting hands, honestly just trying to get better, point of this post was how to interpret table talkfold pre fold pre fold pre fold pre fold pre. i almost dont wanna read past that, and your reasoning of it is probably -ev but whatever,...... and i mean this just seems so wierd imo, i just feel this hand is fake,...... oh just read down to pot odds yah me and you too. fold. silly hand imo. wow is this what fcp has come too? -
No problem, thank you for the input. For a while I was playing way too many hands in early in middle positions due to the propensity of weak players stacking off making "sheriff calls" with middle pair, top pair weak kicker, etc. Been valuing position a lot more lately with good results. (this hand was a couple months ago) What about playing suited aces in middle position, or suited kings in CO, button with 3-6 limpers ahead and little fear of blinds 3-betting?I did fold and villian showed 5-6 off for a straight draw, just trying to reinforce my decision and not be results-oriented. I was proud of not going on tilt after this!Yeah. Sorry, I had a terrible day and came across harder than I needed to. Take out the bad attitude from my response and you still have "Fold Preflop" and "there are enough ways to lose this hand that I think this is a Fold".Yes. I was talking about the final unseen Villain Hole Card. -
I wasn't UTG, I was third to act after two folds. The game was INCREDIBLY weak, with literally no one 3-betting pre-flop. I got a little bored, I agree K4 suited is -EV in middle position. I don't lose to any ace or any heart, I lose to two pair with an ace, or a straight or a flush, unless you meant the other card besides the one he showed, in which case I apologize. Maybe not the most interesting hand, I apologize, just trying to get better and figure out what the usual meaning of showing a card, show you if I fold type stuff is.This really feels made up. Why would anyone show a Card in this situation?You raise 20% of the time UTG with K4?This just doesn't make any sense. Yeah the "I'll show if you fold" is a classic cry for a Fold, but still without any other read why would we call this? We lose to any ace, five, or heart.The Five alone isn't exactly a show of power, so if he is trying to induce a Fold that is pretty weak.Bottom line: If we don't play K54 OOP then we don't find ourselves in these positions.Fold Preflop. -
Sorry for the format, I copied and pasted from an email. 1 - 2 No Limit My stack = $400, no one at table has less than $80, most people between 100-200 UTG and MP 1 fold Hero raises to $5 with Kd 4d I don't really have a problem with this raise though it may be slightly -EV. My table was especially weak and I have strong reads on everyone except a new guy in the SB who just sat down. I also have a good image, having only shown down premium hands. No one had been 3-betting preflop and I figured to get 3-5 callers. I'd make this raise about 20% of the time, call around 20%, and fold around 60% MP 4, 5 and CO call, as does SB. BB folds. Flop (pot = $21 after rake) Kh 4h 3c SB bets $9 - SB middle aged Asian guy, just sat down at table, no reads on him Hero raises to $29 MP 4, 5 and CO all fold, SB calls Turn (pot = $79) Ah SB shoves for $64 I hem and haw, then ask the guy to show me one card. He refuses. I say, come on man, I'm probably gonna fold, show me one to get me to call. He thinks, then turns over the five of hearts. Now what???? I am about to muck my cards, and at the last second he says, "if you fold I'll show you both." Change anything?
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Good points all, I'm not sure why I even posted this hand, as the more I think about it it's not all that interesting. The other only thing I could think of at the time was calling the flop, donking the turn all in on a blank and c/shoving a diamond, but it seems like more of a tournament line and it runs the risk of me possibly not getting paid off. Also not that many great bluff cards in the deck I don't think. Does my FE increase significantly on the turn? I did shove on the flop, both Seats 4 and 6 call.Turn Qh (thought it was a diamond and nearly lost it)Seat 4 goes all in for ~$100, Seat 6 calls River 4cSeat 4 turns over A-7 for two pair, Seat 6 turns over A-2 and says "chop it up"High ComedyBourbon St. still got a healthy dose of my money regardless Friday and Saturday.Well the nice thing is that if you call the additional $50, Pot is $306, stack is $116, so when he pushes on the turn you *will* be getting 4-to-1, even if seat 6 folds at that point.That said, I think you probably push all-in at this point. The pot is huge, you're already committed, and my guess is that they both will call your all-in. If the flush comes on the turn, one of them might be able to get away. If the board pairs on the turn, you're going to be tempted to fold, and that might or might not be the right play. And every once in awhile, you'll enter bizarro-land, with Seat 4 turning over QQ and seat 6 turning over a straight draw (or with both of them suddenly folding). -
I definitely had the same thought, and called. Seat 4 then decides to raise to $80. Seat 6 called, everyone else folded to mePot = $256Stack = $166Now do I call and c/f a blank turn if I am not getting 4 to 1? Based on my knowledge of seat 4 his bet will be all in on the turn if I call flop check a non diamond turn. Do I have any FE by shoving? Maybe a bare ace folds? These guys are not thinking about pot odds, but will they see a raise of basically $100 as strong enough to fold an ace?Man I love tables like this. I would actually just call in this spot. The thing to keep in mind is this table offer a) little fold equity and B) players who will sheriff-call you once you've made the nuts. As such, there isn't a ton of value in trying to maximize small edges. Maximize big edges instead!We've got three options: fold, call, or all-in. Folding is clearly out of the question. You're being offered straight pot odds on a call and crazy-good implied odds. If you go all-in, I expect a bar ace is calling you, so you'll still need to make your flush to win. By calling, you make sure that smaller flush draws and straight draws call as well. And that's where the hand gets awesome, when you make your flush on the turn and someone comes along looking for their straight on the river anyway.Basically, given the pot size, we know we're committed to see the river. We don't pick up fold equity by raising here, so our goal becomes making our hand and then collecting a stupid-tax from all the people who never should've been in in the first place. Best way to collect that tax is to leave it cheap at this stage. If you miss the turn, they'll likely check to the bettor and he'll fire ~$50, which gives you straight-up pot odds again, and let's you save money by folding the river if you miss.Calling would be a terrible play at a tough table. But at this one, I think it's hugely +EV -
1 -2 No Limit 10 handed at Harrah's New Orleans on an early Friday evening. Good times. Seat 4 (UTG) is a drunk entertaining guy, playing 90% of hands, showing me most every hand he is playing when I am not in the pot, bluffing with small 3 barrels, calling down lite, won a few big pots early and is sitting on about $350.Seat 6 is a CAG, (crazy Asian guy) who doesn't seem to know what he is doing, takes 30 sec-1 min for every decision, which is always a call or fold. No info on Seat 8, got check raised on the turn on a dry board three hands prior and laughed and folded, seemingly bluffing.I just sat down with $200. Hand:Hero in BB with Kd 3dSeat 4 (UTG) blind straddles to $4 (awesome!) Seats 5-10 call, button folds (awesome!) SB calls Hero calls,Flop (pot = $36)Ad 9c 7dSB ChecksI see Seat 4 reaching to arrange chips for a small bet, I decide to check to set up a big check raise. Seat 4 bets $15Seat 5 calls Seat 6 calls Seat 7 calls Seat 8 raises to $30Seats 9, 10, 2 foldPot = $126Hero ???
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This was an auction, no? Did you feel like you got good value for anyone in particular? Any info on the other teams in your league? Snake drafts are simply nowhere near as fun or challenging as auctions, but there's nothing worse than getting stuck with a player you were just trying to bid up!
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How much, if at all, different is online BR theory from live? The low limit live games are SUPER soft, a bit swingy but not too bad. Anyone make a good profit live?This is excellent advice, you should read it at least twice.I'll repeat a couple of really important points: If you have 300 BB ($600 for 1/2) at the higher level it's time to start looking at games. Cherry pick the easy games first (I start w/ over 38% seeing the flop on Stars). Stick to the lower level if you can't find a live game or two at the higher level.If you're trying to prove to yourself you can beat a certain level... I think once you've beaten a level for 500BB and played more than 10K hands, you've proven you can beat that level indefinitely. -
The 25 BB's rule was a tilt-proofing if you will. As was the 10 minute break every 90 minutes. Could be changed, but I'm gonna stick with it for a while.While I run better live than online, I mostly stick to tournaments, so I don't really have all that much advice for cash games. 25 big blinds strikes me as rather low, though - is that normal at the place where you play?In any case, sounds like you are doing well - good luck! -
A little background: I'm a 28 year high school teacher and coach who grew up playing poker recreationally, was intrigued by casino poker after moving out to LA from Boston after college, read Harrington, found 2+2 and FCP, and started playing about two or three times a month about four years ago. Yes I am an English teacher and realize what a mess of a run-on sentence that was. Two years ago read SSHE, and obviously felt much more comfortable, still didn't keep stats, but was definitely a winning player. I know, I know, there's no way to know for sure, but I know. I'd pick up a couple hundred here and there playing 3-6 or 4-8, win about 75-80% of my sessions, but never had any crazy long losing streaks. My problem was I'd spend my winnings pretty quickly and therefore never build a proper bankroll. Actually, it wasn't a problem, it was a choice, and I had no problem doing it. Tried playing online but didn't have the focus necessary, I'd always try to grade papers while playing cause I got bored with no one to talk to. I respect online players very much!!! This spring and summer I have a lot of free time in LA and have decided to use most of it to build a proper bankroll. Here is where I need some advice. I started with $1600 and decided to play 4-8 to start. I know 300 BB's is the general standard, but the games are SO soft here (Hustler, Bicycle Club, Commerce, Hollywood Park) plus the rake is killer, so I figured I'd push it and start with 4-8. In four sessions I won $750, OBVIOUSLY a sick run of cards, nowhere close to what I expect, but, in fairness I play really well, SSHE pretty much by the book, took advantage of the cards I got, and didn't put myself in stupid spots. So now my roll is at $2350, and my original plan was to play 6-12 when I got to $2400, see how soft the games are, and if I dropped to $1800 go back to 4-8 and build to $3000 (250 BB's at 6-12) before moving up again.Should I scrap going to 6-12 when I get to $2400 and continue to build at 4-8? Anyone have experience in Los Angeles at 6-12? Games similar to 3-6 and 4-8? I figure I'll get more thinking players maybe capable of c/ring the turn on a semi-bluff, but I feel strongly in my ability to evaluate players at the table. Also, and I apologize for the long post, but I would love some feedback on the rules I set for myself. I made them up with a friend who is an experienced player. Here they are:15-25 hours per weekNo weekday session over 5 hoursCannot begin a weekday session after 6 PMNo weekend session over 7 hoursCannot begin a weekend session after 8 PM10 minute break every 90 minutesCannot play for more than 3 consecutive daysNo alcohol during sessionCan’t lose more than 25 BB per sessionOne buy in per session, 25 BBCannot begin a hand with less than 5 BBThank you for being patient reading all of this, I am very open to criticism and just want to do things right. I will definitely be posting hands and whatnot over the next few months, and I look forward to discussing them. Thanks!
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Could be wrong but wouldn't overcalls be more desirable here? A slew of checks often brings a pot steal attempt, and how worried are we about someone improving? Again, I could be wrong.I think a flop bet has merit. I dunno. The problem is that your hand doesn't rate to win at showdown very often in a 6-way pot, so I think we should bet to try to fold out as many overcard hands as possible. 67, T9, etc would be nice to fold both. If they saw your hand, they'd be getting pretty close to the proper odds to peel with a 6-outer, so making them fold incorrectly is a good result for us.I play the turn and river the same. -
Yes QJs.My thoughts were in line with you guys, though he ends up losing the same no matter what. He 3-bets turn I c/r river, though I suppose he could lose 4 bets on turn? Doubtful. Also, calling QJs OOP in SB against loose CO raise? Too light?I think I'm with Anti...I think CO should be 3-betting the turn. That said, if I'm him I'm probably shutting down on the river if the turn is capped. I hate the way he played his hand on both the turn and the river. Too passive on the turn, too aggro on the river. I guess you had something like QJ or KT? -
What % of spade draws are raising that turn? In my live low limit experience I'd say not many. Could be a good play against a tight passive habitual c-bettor, but not too profitable otherwise. I could be wrong, I'm just trying to learn here.What range do you put SB on? Is a 3-bet turn simply to punish draws, or strictly value. Would you 3-bet the same board if it was rainbow?
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No other replies? Not that interesting a hand?he should have three bet you on the turn. -
Want to post this hand from the other player's perspective and see what your thoughts on his line are, I thought it was interesting. I am in SB, have a huge stack in front and have only showndown top pair, good kicker or better hands. Not sure if CO realizes this though, doesn't seem to be paying much attention.Preflop:Dealt to CO (9c 9h)Action: EP 1 thru CO+1 all fold, CO raises, Button folds, SB calls, BB foldsFlop: 10s 9s 2dAction: SB Checks, CO bets, SB CallsTurn: KcAction: SB Checks, CO bets, SB raises, CO callsRiver: 7hAction: SB Bets, CO Raises, SB reraises, CO callsThoughts on the line?
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These examples illustrate perfectly how you can't get upset losing with premium preflop hands in crazy LAG games. SSHE is a great book to read to exploit the games. Hands like 8-9 suited and small pairs are just as valuable as A9-AJ, K10 - KQ in these games, perhaps moreso, as a single pair is unlikely to take down pots. The swings may be a bit wide, but playing your draws aggressively can make you a big winner in these games.
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Agreed checking flop was terrible on his part. I don't feel he is aware of my read, and I think he would suspect a 20,000 bet as a steal attempt much more than a push. Then again if I want a call then I should bet the 20k. With a push I am representing an ace, as I would have played an ace in this exact manner (whether or not that's right) and he knows this. I feel a push can possibly get him off K7-KT, though I may be off on this. All this indicates that I put myself in an awful spot OOP with a mediocre hand. RESULT:I shoved, he tanked for a good four minutes and called with K9 of spades. I'm actually surprised he tanked that long, but as I said, I know he knew I would play an ace the same way. He's off to the WSOP and I will root hard for him.
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Yes, IMO it is just a terrible preflop call, and even though I thought on it for a long time, I was exhausted and just convinced myself that he had a pocket pair. Before I saw flop I was already mad at myself. He is raising here with any Ace, any K (most of which dominate me), QJ, QT, JT, and any pocket pair, and that's it, meaning I have a HUGE chance of being dominated. Just an awful preflop call, and trust me I realized this as soon as I made it. That being said, as played I wasn't getting away from the hand with the knowledge he didn't have an ace, so I am still debating the merits of betting 20,000 as opposed to shoving.
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Sorry for not including the read in OP, I am an inexperienced poster.I was VERY sure about my read. Is there any benefit to shoving turn instead of betting 20,000 if I know I am committed? Maybe get villian off King with higher kicker?
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Perhaps I should have added that I took a pretty long time before checking the flop. He thought for about ten seconds for checking behind. I had a very strong read that he did not have an ace after this happened.
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36 man tournament, $50 buy in, winner gets seat at $1500 event at World Series, runner up gets $150 ($100 profit)Villian (actually a good friend) and hero are solid, Harrington-versed players, changing gears throughout tourney and playing solid short-handed poker. First hand heads up hero raises to 3x blind pre-flop with A-6 on button, villian folds, next hand villian folds pre-flop, third hand hero folds 9-2 pre-flop.Fourth Hand:Hero = 96,000Villian = 84,000Blinds = 4,000 - 8,000Hero is dealt Ks 6h in big blindVillian raises to 20,000, hero callsFlop = Ac 8d 2sHero checks, Villian checksTurn = KdHero ???? Thoughts on all streets appreciated, sorry for lack of converting, not sure how to.
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Well, I couldn't post my predictions because of all the action I had on the bet, but here are the results:383 made in 30 minutes, with 4 one minute breaks. My highest number bet on was 280, so the breaks were planned knowing I had plenty of time.By far the most surprising result was that my accuracy actually went UP as time went on!!!I was 78% in the first ten minutes, 80% in the second, and 83% in the third! I was as surprised as anyone by this.I was actually nervous early on (there was a lot of money riding on it), which accounts for the early inaccuracy, but finishing strong was not part of the plan. If I had to get over 400 I think I would, with maybe two or three 30 second breaks. So there it is! Thanks for all of your input, hope you enjoyed!
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Pocket 9S Facing 3-Bet Preflop
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Sorry, some more info, about 35 players left in tourney, paying top 8. Avg chips is about 65k. I have four or five stacks over 100k at my table, so other tables are probably very short (not that it necessarily matters).