MrConceit

My thoughts are: are you serious? Cards don't stay hot or stay cold -- until after it's happened. You can't decide your luck is going to continue or that it's ended. Quitting when you're up makes as little sense as quitting when you're down -- unless it's affecting how you're playing. Like if you're tilting because of a number of bad beats or bad luck of having KK run into AA a lot.As far as him potentially burning out, that's possible. 10-12 hours of SnGs a day is enough to make any man get sick of it. SnGs just don't provide a ton of variety IMO, but that comment is _JUST_ my opinion.

Ideas? I'd hope it was a 9QK so you would win. But perhaps it's the case 7 so the guy with arguably the worst hand wins with quads?

Yeah I think your fold on the end is wrong. If MP1 or Button had a Q I think you would have seen a raise by now. And the only Ax that beats you is AK, AQ (not counting AA hah). If you still called on the turn on your nut flush draw on a paired board, I think you HAVE to call on the river. The J on the flop makes no kickers play other than AK. I really don't know what all those overcallers have, but if they didn't raise on the turn/river I really don't think they have your ace pair beat. And the pot size makes it worth seeing if BB has AK or a random Qx hand.The time to fold the hand, if

Very very ballsy for O8/b. I'm not really sure I even like it it's so ballsy. If you had AKKQ double suited quite possibly, but with it being QQ it's scary.If it was PLO alone then maybe moreso also. You got the best of all worlds though that they all had low hands, laugh.I would have figured 1 of them for AAxx or KKxx and likely not had the balls you did.It will be interesting to see final board.

OMG I think I'll reply to the actual thread. I have two laydowns. One that was utterly stupid first.This first one is rather a long time ago, I think it was 5/10, I'm giving this from memory, I only CLEARLY remember my hand and final board:I have TT in like UTG. I raise preflop, some mid guy 3bets, somebody coldcalls, sb folds, BB calls 2 cold, I cap all still in call. Flop is JQK. The flop is ugly but I have an open ended that's likely live unless somebody does have AT already. I bet, 3better raises, next guy coldcalls again, bb folds, I call. Turn is like a 2, I check, preflop-3better

Yeah original thread poster said it kinda bad, but I actually agree with him to some degree. Not headphones, that's fine. But the over-use of hats and sunglasses. It's fine to use them if you want, but people are acting like it's manditory, and "WOW, you don't wear sunglasses?!?". Like it's now a required uniform for poker players. When I said people above, I don't mean posters in this thread, I mean the random newcomers of poker, mainly live tourney players.I personally think sunglasses are kind of gay, but it's just that, personal. I wouldn't look down on other people who want to wear

Laugh, is the proclivity to go allin at the drop of a hat what defines a great player to you?

I've done collusion online in the past. I specifically mean sharing card info with a friend. I have always refused to do any chain raising or anything really other than staying out of each others way. I mainly have used colluding as a way of knowing what was going on in the hand with a friend and vice versa. It's far more interesting if you know what's going on. And then you can discuss during the hand what's happening. I do the same thing with some friends just by observing their games.I have online "acquaintances" who do more, and have asked me to do more, but I refuse. I didn't reall

His question is whether it's immoral, not whether it's against the law. It's rather silly to talk about speeding 5-15 miles over the speed limit as being immoral.Most people seem to think if it's against the law, that it's worse. I'm kind of the reverse. There are so many stupid dumb laws. But you have to be aware of ones that are felonies, at least ones that are still enforced. It's still against the law to engage in oral sex and any number of ridiculous things in most states, but people don't care.People don't feel it's WRONG/immoral to speed, it just happens to be against the law. Tho

If limping here is pointless I prefer to fold. You have zero info about either the blinds or the UTG+1 who limped. 5s are yucky. If either blind calls the raise it's even more disgusting unless you flop a set.Oh, one other point, it isn't just the two of you in the hand if you limp. It's surely the BB and likely the SB. So if they get a piece when you flop a set you could easily get some action.

A fine post. But as a side question, how do you lose 2x the standard buyin in 2 hands at a table? It's basically impossible in limit where standard buyin is like 25 BB. In NL you mean you go allin both hands and lose them both? That is kinda rough. Well ok, if you cap every street in limit that's what? 12 BB? So it's almost possible in limit if you cap every single street, but not quite, you'd still have a BB left!

ABC poker does not always maximize your return. yes, i did miss 1/2 a BB, but i intend to try to make more than that on the turn. instead of 0.25 + 0.50, i open the door and try to extract 0.50 + 0.50. thats a +EV of 0.25. see the above post before yours, and a ton of the posts above that.I fully agree with you that ABC poker does not always maximize edges, but it does TEND to on low limit poker. People will call 1 flop bet with the most improbable holdings, and sometimes call turn too, but especially the flop. The main advantage of a free flop is to get the double turn as you said, or maybe

There's nothing wrong with playing a .02/.04, gotta start somewhere. And I believe it, people will ask for money at all times, I just figured it happened more on the "higher limits on a site". Apparently it goes on everywhere!

really? if you have four hearts and you draw one to a heart, you will get it 1 in 5 times about, so if you have four opponents or more, it's a good draw, right? as for straights, only open-ended. am i wrong?aseemYeah Ice already answered you, but everything I've read backs this up. If you're not playing against utter newbies you rarely should draw to a flush, unless it's a rare hand where you're last to act and most of the table limps and doesn't raise.If you're not really late in acting, you'll never know if you have proper odds to draw. And supposedly without utterly clueless people few ha

The blinds are so small, it doesn't seem totally worth it to me to raise. And you have _zero_ info about whether the blinds are loose/tight because the tourney just began. UTG+1 is pretty early, so he could very easily have a solid hand if he's not a fool. I'd just call and see if I flopped a set since the blinds are so small compared to stack sizes. If they were larger I'd raise.Obviously you don't have the pot odds to try to flop a set off pure pot odds, but with implied I think it's fine. I'm not hugely against raising here, but with no knowledge of whether the blinds are loose/tight a

I really quite agree with most of the points you give here. I'm just not a HUGE fan of WLLH, but it was my first book also as I started like a year ago and SSHE wasn't out yet.I agree that SSHE is a difficult book if you're utterly new to poker (or new to limit poker), but I think it is possible as a first book if you put a lot of time into reading and understanding it, or have some background playing first.I totally agree with what you say on ToP.WLLH just advocates too weak a style for me to wholeheartedly advise it as my first choice for a beginner book. His 2nd edition isn't as bad as th

Why? I'm just curious. This tourney in fact was proof that Moneymaker wasn't utterly a fluke. And I'm not saying he's amazing, but this tourney proved his one single WSoP wasn't the only thing he could ever do well in. Shooting Star gives bounties on all the Pros they decide to put bounties on. And Moneymaker was the only bounty to make the final few people.And Phil Gordon, well actually I won't get into it, there was a long thread on him recently. He's very solid is all I'll say.

My main lifelong passion is Chess. Sadly I'm not amazing, but I'm solid. I've played tons of online and a good amount of RL tourneys for chess.Next is probably ping pong, pool, basketball, scrabble in that order.I plan on getting into bridge in the next few years. I've asked some of my good bridge friends what are the best first couple books to read.I used to like Magic, but haven't been into it for years.

It depends what you want to do. SS2 gives great advice for each section of the book, but it isn't like an exhaustive tome on each subject. It just gives you solid great advice for each game. SSHE gives very solid complete info for beating one game, low limit hold'em. It is very much a how-to book. SS2 isn't that kind of book imo. Though I've only read about half of it so far. I LOVE the Harman limit section, but it isn't exactly a total howto book for limit hold'em.So if you want to play particularly low limit hold'em, I'd recommend SSHE or Gary Carson's The Complete Book of Hold'em, or

I've only played on Stars a little now, recently put some cash in there just to play in multis (including Negreanu Open stuff). But in my limited experience the players with Hot-Chick pics have tended to be good.The main one I'm remembering was playing in a NL multi and was quite good if a bit overaggressive.Now I have my serious doubts as to the fact it was even a female player, much less a hot one, but that isn't the point of the thread.

I understand what you are trying to say here, but one year is not really the "long run" everyone is talking about. Eventually he will take a swing that will take him down to bust, at that point in time, he is officially a loosing poker player, his roll is gone and he can no longer play the game - unless of course you want to start over with another investment, but even though you would have a new roll, you are still a loosing poker player at that point.He hasn't just been playing for one year, I perhaps spoke imprecisely. I'm saying by the end of every year he's ahead, a lot. But on 1 singl

Haha, that rocks. Yeah the good convenience store chains give you a day or two of class, and one of the things they stress repeatedly is to cooperate with robbers, blah blah. I was never robbed, but my brother has been when he worked in one after high school. He got thrown over the counter (maybe they were worried he had a button he could push?), but didn't get hurt in reality, though he was shook up at the time.

The problem with this is all of the longshot draws you're talking about rarely hit. Make them try to PAY for the draw since they aren't going to hit them very often anyway. With this flop you basically have to hope there is 1 (or maybe 2) people with an ace and they'll raise you on the turn. If nobody has an ace here you aren't going to make much money anyway. Unless you're in a table full of total fish, and if you are, get them to pay pay pay. In other words bet.[edit]Btw, a tight player doesn't call the flop bet on a gutshot with 7:1 odds anyway when the board is paired, so he won't eve

Yeah your tips were good because of the large blinds vs stack size to begin, but the fact that it's going to start 6 handed (or 5) means he can't wait TOO much. You should be trying to steal if first in a solid amount of the time if you have much of anything. Never limp (first in I mean) 5-6 handed, just about, unless you're trying to be tricky with a high PP or something.

Well it's just willpower and realizing that you can be outdrawn and you WANT them to be drawing slim -- I mean it's that in the long run.In the short-run, if you don't have this mindset yet, you usually just need to take a 5-10 min break, or longer if you're seriously out of control.Just take an hour break, read the forum, and then go back and crush them when you're feeling good after reading the forum (or whatever else you did for an hour).