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DN doesn't seem as upset as some posters. Let's see, he's run into 4 Aces when he turned a set, and pocket fives snapped his KK in tourneys. Then the deck hit Barry in the face heads up. As long as this stuff doesn't keep up for a year, I wouldn't be too concerned--that's poker.

If they'd cast Evelyn NG and Clonie Gowen I'd have watched!! But poker is frowned on by the religious right, the audiance many new shows are aiming to attract.

I'm 55 and I'd say yes give it a shot. I'm assuming you can hold your own in say a regular $10 hm game up through a ram-em jam-em $20 Hm saturday night casino game at limit. There really is a big differance in the new style of play and it is was hard for me to change up. On the other hand I think several guys my age are just plain more patient. Plus you really do have an advantage after 30 years in sort of having an instinctive idea of relative hand value (where you are at). Also I notice a lot of good younger guys tend to let their ego get in the way and you can lay back and let them bet

Yes I have folded AA once in a live cash game at the Horseshoe in 2001. The situation was no limit and the bets had gone raise $60, raise $150$ , Call $150, and then a 75 year old cowboy made it $1500 straight. I was 98% sure I recognised him from a $30-$60 lowball game in Vegas in 1971 when I ran into a crew of cheats in with several dealers. I'd won about $6000 in some frat games at Cal Berkley, but got taken big time (I wasn't even 19 years old) when I stopped in Vegas. One player called him allin anyway and the guy flopped 4 7's so it turned out OK whether I was right or not in my mem

Limpy has a good point referring to Hansen's statement of real winnings-Case in point: There was a period time that the syndicator of Kingworld TV Entertainment (now owned by Opra) used to come to AC and stay at the Trump Marina loosing millions a night playing bacarat.He would then, I guess to save money, go over to a prearranged game at the Taj where he'd play a mixed game of stud and holdem with a big antiThe story goes that most of the top players were staked to 10% by one guy and then there was a split after the guy lost. Over time we're talking millions and millions. He probably wasn

Badass- Thanks for the update on Raymer. Having played with him only once I was relying a bit on my friends impression of the guy. First my thought is there is no accounting for how being a "big" famous champion can go to the head of some people. Sadly this seems to be the case.Next: the overaggression and arrogance you noted (as did I) is rewarded a bit more in the average $200-$400 7stud east coast game than it is out in Vegas were they play higher and generally mixed games. I'm reminded of Phil Ivey's story of how this terrible 7stud player ("the Toymaker") beat him everyweekend for 6

All this and no suggestion TO SPEED UP PLAY. I am sick of sitting for 20 plus seconds every hand while some idiot plays at 5 tables. There has to be a better time limit to stop slow play!!!!!

Even a rich kid can be smart-- Did you bring your own deck or did he make you play with his??? Certainly poor play can be overcome by having one big edge. Oh, rich kids are often thought by their cheat fathers--that's how they got rich. Just an memory from a college game long ago you might think about

I certainly HOPE you weren't calling ME an idiot because I estimated his net winnings (liquid assets) just at 5 plus million after taxes/expenses and then in the next word pointed out the importance of his 2 houses (which I stated were expensive and had just doubled) and in the last part stated a major part of DN's net worth has to be accounted for in (unrealised) endorsement deals and his good name. These are ALL part of net worth, however as everyone knows, they are not properly booked at full value until proceeds are realized in the year of income. Actually to imply that his present day

I'm just not a fan of Moneymaker. But as an East Coast player I feel Raymer is way misunderstood. He was a winning ring player for years at the $50 to $200-$400 level with a solid but overagressive style of play. I have an unknown good pro-player friend in AC who is ranked 80th or so in tourny winnings by the Hendon Mob, who played with him regularly and felt his being in the game "was no big bargin" . Basically given my friends ranking and what I know to be his cash game winnings, I feel that it's actually a compliment to say that Raymer is in the top 100-- just not the top 30 when it com

My info is based from a childhood friend who dated a world series winner for awhile and went to the big games at Flynts, and published stuff in Cardplayer as well as the Wall Street Journal which did a piece on this issue. Basically all agreed with DN's statement in Cardplayer that ALMOST all name players are tired, very much broke, and living unhappy lives. Playing for a living is NOT the easiest way to make a million. The only name players to really have put away millions tend to be older (or more mature) players WHO ARE MARRIED and whose wives stashed away the money into real estate and o

By the time you get to step 4, I fail to why there isn't some minimal cash payout through the top six players. At least this would encourage more oeople to take a a shot--even when losing most of the buyin,

Look --85%, 75%, 70% or even 65% is a completely delusional win rate, claimed only by punk arrogent players with a small sample size and giant ego.I've heard the best pros doing 58-62% over a LONG time but by multitabling a LOT of very low limit games. If you think that the best in the world does better than 40% +/- in $50, $100 and above S&G's, then try them yourself- you are full of it!!!I cashed out 16 of my first 20 $100 S&g's at PP---so what?, I lost all but one of the next 10.

The tournaments are at the Taj, Trop, and Borgata nightly. YouWILL find problems w/any rooms where you . Plus costs will go through the bankfrol due to the expenxsive rooms. A hotel doesn't eat up all yourpohfits from play problems is fiind a palce that doesn't eat up ALL you profits! There are a number of inexpesive pesive moths at a weekly ratels out on RT 30 in Absescon NJ--about11 mkesout. Rt 30 starts at the Orleans Casino. Get a weekly rate a te Casino Inn, Executive Lodge, etc BERFORE HAND for a $165-$255 rat per WEEK, cost is euaque equal to 2 nights iin the casios

Actually the NL situation my say something. At $50 and lower S&G's at PP, part of my strategy (absent the benefit of early AA, KK, and AKs) is to just not play. I've obversed that it's rare that 2 or 3 players aren't knocked out before the blinds mean anything. Ideally I'm looking to only gamble after 3 of us are left, even though of coarse that is not going to happen. Never the less, I'm at an advantage if I pay fewer blinds, and can wait until I must complete with 5 players or so, rather than 10.So I view being forced to have bad position and play in bad position as a disadvantage

Daniel: The entire problem arises because it is thought that one staked the other, or they were saving more than the buyin between them. My suggestion was that if 2 competitors share interests, it should be made known to the TD and the players at the table. Then there is no appearance of a problem. By the way, I hate KJ, but then I'm a dumb $15 limit Hm player.

If it makes you feel any better, Phil Ivey felt the same about the Taj a long time ago. Basically Ivey, Nicky Frangos, et.al. moved their play down to the Tropicana and didn't return until they started playing $75 and up. This was before the Borgata opened. The only advantage to the Taj is the parking is easier and in the $10 and up games, and even the mid limit($20- Hm) is now better at the Borgata (room on the left after you get off down escalator)I rent my condo until the summer so all I know is a bit old. However if they still have them, the Tropicana had much bigger tournaments on Fri

Yep-- I've noticed the latest crase on PP is to make a big raise out of the blind. It's gotten much more common than even the button steal. I'm raising tiny amounts on the button with AA etc. to trap these guys at S&G's recently.---Maybe there's a new book saying how smart Blind raising is??Sometimes I trap myself, but over a number of S&G's it's worked pretty well due to the good position against the blinds. Anyway the reward of having double the chips as anyone else after an all-in where you are 1.5 or 2:1 favorite is so great, it's worth the beats.

I think I've seen to 2 girls you're talking about. They've played for years there and live together if it's the ones I'm thinking about. First, it's definately against the Taj rules to ever pass chips --Remember the movie Rounders where M. Damon tries to give them to his friend. Your complaint is with the dealer. Tell the floor and complain about the dealer. Unfortunately, people are free to bet anyway they want-so nothing to do but get table change.At the high area-($10 and above) most players just get up and refuse to pay time. We say they are showing each other cards, and it usually

:clap: I wish I hadn't even clicked this thread --goodone Kdawg

As an old timer, why would I bother to play for fifty or whatever, because you're a young gun? All I said as an (old) Italian too, is the place probably makes good pizza, but the tournaments online are probably better and there's the small advantage of not getting robbed or actually being paid the two dimes if you win online. Not saying you shouldn't go a learn a ton about real live play--could be fun! F@#K, there's probably free beer too..

Actually if you have a shared declaration but limited to one player this solves the Maryland sibling problem.. IN fact the Fishman twins out of AC had this exact concern at the 2002 WSOP OMAHA 8 tournament (Eddie went on to win several hundred thousand for first). They declared their common interest as twins and the Horseshoes' WSOP Turny Director just kept them at separate tables. It was fine with everyone since everything was open and above board. Making husbands/wifes, siblings, et.al. paying big money each day to fly and stay in Vegas-- but one not play, isn't realistic especially t

Buy a slice of pepperoni and cheese from the pros at that, and stick to the online pro's for real tournaments. It's a trill to get robbed, raided by the cops and your $ confiscated, and have fun doing illegal drugs after the game, but what's the hurry. These are available in legal casinos at 18, and online there is more BIG money available to someone to win anyway, since there are more fish and less cheats.

Because it is so widespread and really needed by marginally winning tour players, I'd simplify it a bit. Let anyone "save the buyin" with a 5% trade of percentages as long as it is noted. For greater percentages I'm more worried about being teamed up on, especially in the hi-lo type games (where collusion IS sometimes ethical in cases of hi and low) and H.O.R.S.E. , and for raises between partners before the flop (ie the check-raise reraise trap) where I'm short stack in NL Hm. You know an easy way to do this is to require a written % interest form like they had at the Horseshoe WSOP, and l

Now this post is in the mud it belongs. I'd never soft- anything with these babes. Any mud picts of Allison...not Nascar Bobby stupid.