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I bet about 10 here.Something that i may get blasted for is suggesting a call from the CO with the two nines. You already have two limpers, so why not try and win a nice big one with a flopped set, playing carefully if you flop an over. The more limpers, the more value this play has obv since youre now playing it like a drawing hand.Note: I generally don't play LAG online bc im only playing .5/1 at most, and people just cant fold hands, but i'm raising with 99 more often if im playing LAG.Playing micro online NL you can pretty much just value bet big hands, overbetting much of the time and still get called. I do it and it works anyway.
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This feels a lot like 55. I personally fold here and look for a better spot. Also, with 6 other players in the pot, I make it about a buck 25, 50 PF. I dont mind raising here, bc i think there's a very good chance we have the best hand.
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*shrug* you prolly got coolered. Good bets on all streets, although as pure preference I like to bet slightly bigger on the turn (i wanna win da big un
) 90% of the time youre looking at AK, mb a well slowplayed set. Getting a million to one though no way you can fold. Mb AQ or AJ lost their head. A lot of (dumber) players will make an all-in bet for some reason when they have very few chips left and they should just call.Checking the river isn't so bad, but i think AJ+ having gone this far is prolly paying you off, maybe even a loose AT, 9. A busted flush draw might try to run a bluff but with the strength youve repp'd thay might feel like they need to run a big one or nothing at all. Matter of opinion and feel for hand here.edit: forgot abotu the 2 diamonds. Makes the call easier to make, since a set or Ak prolly does raise the turn or flop, butits not like none of us havent ever seen that sorta hand played poooprly like that; people are dumb. -
I think I probably check here because im weak passive fish and don't want to get raised off my hand
. At these microstakes games that many of us play in, i would say that nearly half the players are weak passive and pay off about a ~1/2 pot sized river bet, w/o having the heart to raise a busted draw. -
I second that. I happen to disagree with most of all of what brando is saying and agree with what seems to be the mainstream thought on this topic. The purpose of forums such as these is to learn and trade ideas, based on the socratic dialectic method. If brando is in fact wrong, there's no reason to insult him. He'll either learn eventually, or wont, which is better for everybody else right? Maybe he could even be onto something. Not saying that this is or isnt the case here, but just because everybody agrees on something doesn't make it right. To think so would make forums such as these nearly valueless.lol, I'm just stating and defending my opinion as are you. It's ok to disagree you know. -
1) Fold. He his 2 pair or a flush, all you can beat is a pure bluff or somebody who lost his head.2) Suck it up and call. Youre probably beat, but getting 5:1. Bet more on the flop and turn. I personally bet at least 10 and 20 here, prolly closer to 25 on the turn. Note: if i bet 10 on the flop, im prolly not betting a lot less than 30 on the turn.3) I don't like it. I'm a donkey and probably fold. When I make a bet like that I usually flopped a set bc i know people cant get away from TP. A semi bluff with a flush draw is possible, but KQ and less (hands you can beat) doesnt do that.P.S. Opening with JJ and QQ is not only perfectly fine, but not doing at an average table is borderline retarded. Unless your table is playing ROCK SOLID TIGHT at which point everybody prolly has several hundred BB's, raising here is basically required.
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Youre getting 3:1 on a call, so no. I would include KQ and QJ in his range, so youre ahead of lots of queens, KK, and only beind sets. JT would be pretty sick.
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You have a better chance at controlling the pot size by raising. Limping lets others in, as in your hand you take a flop with 6 PLAYERS. THATS A LOT! If you raise here, I would expect UTG to call, but it is quite likely that you eliminate many of the players that limped ahead of you, as a typical raised pot goes to the flop 2 or 3 handed. Against 3 players, TPTK is much better than against 6, and MP2 might even pay you off with his weaker hand, as he has now committed more chips.I could go on, but nutshell: Raise good, call bad.The biggest reason I limp is to try to control the pot size. -
Take a free one.
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Dealer: ~250SB: ~320Hero: ~220Table's breaking up, and its 3 handed. Dealer has been fairly loose all night. Hero is dealt Ks QhDealer raises to 10 SB calls, hero calls.Flop is Qs 3s 3c ($30)SB checks, Hero bets $25, dealer calls $25, sb folds.Turn is Kc (Qs 3s 3c) ($80)Hero bets $50, dealer raises to $150. Hero...
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Lead out on the flop. This will allow you to win all of somebodys chips if they have the right hand and the wrong mindset. Ace rag often calls off a flop bet, ace 9+ maybe calling off a turn and/or river bet too. Jx, youre getting all his chips no questions asked. Unless your opponent is LAG, which based on his bet sizes, he clearly isn't, why bother trying to get somebody to bluff off a couple chips with nothing, and then have an ace usually fold when you finally announce the strength of your hand, and have a jack get away with cold calling
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To a known LAG this play is fine. To anybody else you might just want to fold, period.
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I like pushing too. Maybe call, push-on-turn, which is somewhat confusing and often gives you additional fold equity, and lets you see if the bb can give you some better odds. Folding this big of a draw to a min-raise is silly, but cold calling and checking the turn would be a fairly poor play as you'd lose any possible fold equity.
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I'm of the impression that "I'll put you all in" is not an honored defined bet in most casinos. "I'm all in" is a valid bet. I run a poker game, and in this situation I would personally not hold the player to a $3000 bet.
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Hands I see pushing here is any hand that was an air bluff to begin with, I know id at least think of pushing. AA is almost certainly pushing, any set might let you bet the rest yourself. QQ down might push thinking they are being bluffed. KQ could do a lot of things. I think youve commited yourself to calling a push, and Ill be the 778th donk to say 'i like betting the flop'
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Hm... Check on the turn is to induce a bluff? A standard follow through bet with any paint doenst look nearly as suspicious as a CR which i'm guessing you were going to do had it not been 2 bet, although credit for mixing it up *shrug*. Anyway, youre beating KQ and JT (and KJ which is less likely i think) but not very far ahead of JT, and pretty far behind K9 and K8 which arent too far out there. 98 and a set have you too. I think I fold unless you got a read.
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*nods* in hindsight i do wish i had opened for a raise, as I often do On the flop, my thought process was that either I was way ahead of any hand thats not weren't flush draw, or way behind 99 or QQ. This is the only part of the hand that made sens to me in review (anyone else agree, or should I just go ahead and bet anyway?) Also, I agree that my turn bet was pretty sh*tty. Not one of my shining moments.
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Pokershare $50 nl (chip stack values are estimated due to a terrible hand history system)Hero ($52)SB ($22)Preflop: Hero is CO with Q icon_suit_spade.gif , 9 icon_suit_spade.gif . 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50, SB raises to $1.5, BB folds, Hero calls $1Flop: ($3.5) Q icon_suit_heart.gif , 9 icon_suit_heart.gif , 5 icon_suit_spade.gif (3 players)SB checks, Hero checksTurn: ($3.5) 2 icon_suit_club.gif (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $1, SB calls $1.River: ($5.5) 3 icon_suit_spade.gif (2 players)Sb checks, Hero bets $3, SB raises to $10Hero...Comments on all streets welcome.
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lol twodimes.net, son -- put it in your fav's
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15 outs. Youre a favorite against any hand besides a set. Even against two pair youre a small favorite. Pushing also gives you fold equity, creating potential dead money from LP (blind is almost certainly calling)
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First, I'll assume youre referring almost exclusively to online play, where 100 BB's is typically the max, opposed to live games where the cap might be as low as 40 or no cap at all.Addressing a 100 bb max game, and what short constitutes, 50 bb's is what i would consider short if everybody had about what they started with. If several players have busted and/or rebought, short might be higher.I have found that what I buy in for depends heavily upon the demeanor of the table. A general rule I follow is the more people, the more money. More people usually means tighter play, which means I will be playing less hands. The hands that I play for big pots will be fairly good, and I will want to get as many chips in the middle as possible.In a short handed game, play will be looser, and I will be playing more pots especially in later position with more mediocre hands. Lets, for example say that in a 6max game UTG folds and then 2 limp, and I raise the button with a QJo. Flop comes Q high with a flush draw. In this situation, I have no problem getting all my chips in the middle if the action plays out right. Not only are people looser to begin with, but they are more apt to make loose agressive (almost always incorrect) plays against me, such as moving me in with a semibluff or even a pure bluff, since my stack is shorter, and I pose less of a threat to their stack should they be called.A side note: When playing a shortstack, it should be obvious that for the same reasons people double me up with my marginal hands, running weak semibluffs (with less than 8 definite outs) and pure bluffs are much less effective .
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I personally find that there are certain strategic advantages to starting out with a shorter stack, especially in looser games, but that's another topic all together. Mostly I was looking for help on how one might mathematically determine which play is better, as it seems like such knowledge would transpose to other situations also. The reason I didn't run it by the tournament folk is because I feel that this is an auto push in tournaments, which are often push fests to begin with, and the necessity for a quality hand is not as great (admittedly my expertise if existent at all is certainly not in the tournament area).
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So a situation I'm sure everybody runs into often enough is this:You make a preflop raise with a short stack in a loose game with AK, and go to the 3-4 handed. You flop a pair -- lets say an ace for this scenario, along with a flush or straight draw -- once again for this scenario, lets say a flush draw. It gets checked to you, and you make a standard bet, the next player calls and then a non-outrageous raise is made of 1-4x the original bet. It gets back to you with just you the first claler and the raiser in. Simply calling here is an option, but not one I like, as you giving a free card on a draw heavy board (open to discussion of course), so I think your options here are raising all in, or folding. I ran a few numbers on twodimes.net, and this is what I came up with so farLikely hands of raiser:Ax: 16 combos(8:1, 7:1 if kicker is above 2nd rank on board)Flush Draw: 110 combos (1.6:1 fav)set: 18 combos (48:1 dog, minus AA)Top 2: 6 combos (6:1 dog0top & bot: 6 combos (2.7:1 dog)bot 2: 9 combos (3:1 dog)Total possible combos: 165Favorite: 126 (76%)dog: 39 (23.6%)when fav, on avg 4.5:1 favwhen dog, on avg 14:1 againstFor the more mathematically inclined, what sort of stack:pot ratio does one need to move in vs. fold here? Any other thoughts are also welcome.
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Yesterday, I was listening to the first archived episode of the circuit on cardplayer.com, on which dn was a guest. At one point, daniel and mike matusow were discussing how they would like to change the standard tournament structure from ten handed to nine handed, referring to it as a more pure form of poker. I was wondering what it was that made this change so key. The only thing that came to mind besides slight loosening of play was that there are now two early positions, two middle positions, two late positions, the blinds and the button, but that seems somewhat arbitrary. thoughts?
Tricky One...
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I make that bet a lot of the time bc a lot of aces are paying me off, maybe even some worse hands who think theyre getting bluffed.