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hi.thanks for the responses people.so what about a mixture of this thread plus single hand threads? Makes this sub-forum look more active me thinks....Also thoughts to merging the PLO and O8 forums?
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On the flop, I was pretty confident he had a T. On the turn I was nearly certain he had AT...Villain time banked for a little and commented "zzzz AA?", but then called.The shitty thing is that maybe this particular villain would have folded to a $15 bet on the river... who knows
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Agreed.Most often I am leading. Not sure why I didn't this time.Since I check called the flop, i feel turn should only be check call as well...???If taking that line do we donk river if we hit? Or try to CR?
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Since the pot was 4bet preflop, I think most often playing a small pot is not even possible anymore. Even if we do flat the flop bet, there is over $15 in the pot on the turn.We think the villain has AAxx orr KKxx correct? What would you do with that hand if you get raised on the flop? It would seem like you were racing or crushed.I probably flat on the button here I think we aren't really all that connected with AJ95.As played If villain is in on monkey tilt I can get it in on this flop but I don't think he's folding his hand when he leads out here very often so I'd probably flat and hope for a 7 on the turn obviously we lose some of our flush draws value by flatting but I'd rather play a small pot with this hand. Just my two cents. Something else to consider (if we dont think villain is folding) is how deep you and villain are here we don't really want to play a 300BB pot with just a nut flush draw and a gutter to a non nut straight. -
Congrats seac!!!Overdue imo. -
You have inspired me to SPAM this sub-forum. Thank you sir.More to come hopefully.Motion to merge all the NON-holdem-strat forums!Ok, I decided I have to become accountable for my results if I'm ever going to take this more serious than pure entertainment. It seems to me that there aren't a whole lot of PLO players on the site but I will be posting HHs and any insight or questioning of my play is welcome and encouraged. Very Short Meaningless Back Story: Started off playing Hold'em SNGs and MTT where I've notched a few 4 figure scores (still looking for that first 5 figure). Basically I've always played strictly for fun If I ever had a score in a tourney live or on line I'd just cash it out or take it out of my , and I'd never made any attempt to practice BRM or build a bankroll of any sorts. If I busted it I'd just be done until I had some more money for entertainment purposes. Over the last year or so I've gotten into PLO and I now consider it my best game I just feel that my brain is much more comfortable with the way Omaha plays as opposed to Hold 'em. I've since invested in a couple of Jeff Hwang's books on Short-Handed PLO which I found really easy to read. Before this gets to TL:DR level as far as this challenge gos I'm going to try and navigate my way up through small stakes PLO and make a concious effort to practice a BRM strategy and build a bankroll. - BR < 30 BI requires a move down- BR > 50 BI allowed to take 1 table shots at the next level (preferably short stacking)- Post atleast 1 interesting HH and with thought process from each session- 5 Buy in Stop Loss- Not sure how I should work MTTs and SNGs since I do plan to play them occasionally atleast probably just keep a seperate amount in my account alotted towards them Any additions or suggestions would be appreciated. -
Don't think I posted a month graph this year. So I'll just post a quarterly graph. 99.99% is $25 NLHE and $25 PLONLHE
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Milked from the teat of a feral cowPokerStars Pot Limit Omaha $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersUTG+1: $21.90 CO: $25.00 Button: $39.96 (Hero)SB: $9.30 BB: $60.60 UTG: $7.23 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is Button with 
(6 players)2 folds, CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.10, SB folds, BB raises to $3.65, CO folds, Hero calls $2.55Flop: ($7.65) 
(2 players)BB bets $7.27, Hero raises to $29.08, BB raises to $50.89, Hero calls $7.23 and is all-inAnyone fold pre? Or play the flop differently?
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Maybe you should not try to get a Ten to fold here... let alone and AT.
beware the feral cow packs. they hunger.PokerStars Pot Limit Omaha $0.10/$0.25 - 5 playersSB: $36.44 BB: $22.88 UTG: $45.25 (Hero)CO: $15.00 Button: $38.14 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with 
(5 players)Hero raises to $0.85, CO folds, Button calls $0.85, SB folds, BB calls $0.60Flop: ($2.65) (3 players)BB checks, Hero bets $2, Button calls $2, BB foldsTurn: ($6.65) (2 players)Hero bets $5, Button calls $5River: ($16.65) (2 players)Hero bets $9.25 -
A pack of feral cows chewed their cuds for .0043 seconds to convert this handPokerStars Pot Limit Omaha $0.10/$0.25 - 5 playersUTG: $19.90 CO: $37.90 Button: $6.95 SB: $25.66 (Hero)BB: $26.24 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with (5 players)3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls $0.50Flop: ($1.50) (2 players)Hero checks, BB bets $1.25, Hero calls $1.25Turn: ($4.00) (2 players)Hero checks, BB bets $3.75
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Getting rediculous odds to call off at the end, but at the time I was calling I thought that if I did not have this little re-draw... maybe i should fold???
Feral Cow PokerPokerStars Pot Limit Omaha $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersButton: $15.27 SB: $25.00 BB: $12.00 UTG: $11.18 UTG+1: $53.52 CO: $32.30 (Hero)Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with (6 players)UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $1.10, Button calls $1.10, SB calls $1, BB calls $0.85, UTG calls $0.85Flop: ($5.50) (5 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $2.25, Hero raises to $11.98, Button folds, SB raises to $23.90 and is all-in, BB calls $10.90 and is all-in, UTG calls $7.83 and is all-in, Hero calls $11.92 -
Concerning the bolded, what is a safe turn when you consider the flop action? Is a villain really donk betting/3 betting small pre with a draw? I would say that Villain could put u on the draw once you only call the flop 3 bet.On the turn as played, why even jam at all? Just call and call river as well when he bets.**On another note, all these stats seem like information overload to me.So I don't really know what the weak flop donk says about his range... I believed that typically a strong hand would XR and squeeze the fish on the button. A weak bet is a great way to squeeze me and keep me playing straighforwardly with the fish to act behind me. Since I believed the fish would call a raise cold, and since I was ahead of the draws, pairs, and pairs+draws I thought the BB might be donking, I raised for value.When I got 3-bet on the flop it was decision time: fold or call with the intention of jamming a safe turn. I opted for decision #2 thinking of how wide his cold-calling from the blinds range really was. But his bet size on the turn was also weird to me... he was clearly committing himself. Strong draw? (If so I should follow through and jam.) Strong made hand? (If so I should fold.)I appreciate your thoughts! -
i LOL'dYeah I think you're line is fine. There really is no scare card for you other than another 7. It's rare that an A/K/Q would give villain the best hand since he'd have to have a hand like AA7x/KK7x/QQ7x. nh, wp, ul, f that guy. -
Butler, Kansas, and UNC please.
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After I do get raised on the flop, do you like the call? What about my Check / Call Turn, donk river line?His flop raise is terrible imo. JJ is really the only thing you should be calling a raise with there and if you have JJxx the money is going in 90% of the time anyway. Like... no flush draw and even calling with 89Tx would be bleh on the paired board. -
yuplulzFeral Cow Poker Hand ConverterFull Tilt Pot Limit Omaha $0.02/$0.05 - 5 playersCO Vesku4k: $2.91 Button Strongfelt: $3.80 SB Poruchik1: $5.16 BB Hero: $4.00 UTG TheCrow14: $6.91 Preflop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with 
(5 players)TheCrow14 calls $0.05, 2 folds, Poruchik1 calls $0.03, Hero raises to $0.20, TheCrow14 calls $0.15, Poruchik1 calls $0.15Flop: ($0.60) 
(3 players)Poruchik1 bets $0.32, Hero raises to $1.25, TheCrow14 folds, Poruchik1 raises to $2.80, Hero raises to $3.80, and is all in, Poruchik1 calls $1Turn: ($8.20) 
(2 players)River: ($8.20) 
(2 players)Poruchik1 showed 
, and won ($7.66) with four of a kind, NinesHero showed , and lost with a full house, Aces full of NinesPoruchik1 won $7.66(Rake: $0.54)plolConverted by the cows of Feral Cow PokerPokerStars Pot Limit Omaha $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersUTG: $8.51 UTG+1: $23.72 CO: $6.90 Button: $16.11 SB: $26.32 (Hero)BB: $31.44 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with (6 players)UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.25, CO folds, Button calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.15, BB checksFlop: ($1.00) :D (4 players)Hero bets $0.75, BB folds, UTG+1 raises to $2.50, Button folds, Hero calls $1.75Turn: ($6.00) (2 players)Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50River: ($13.00) (2 players)Hero bets $12.37, UTG+1 raises to $17.47 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.10UTG+1 showed , and won ($45.94) with four of a kind, SevensHero showed , and lost with a full house, Jacks full of SevensUTG+1 won $45.94(Rake: $2)(tho u were ahead in your hand)
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I sometimes flat...Isolate and steal the button?Also I've been experimenting with less than pot sized 3 bets, so that if I get 4 bet, there isnt as much to call. And the 4 better from UTG should have AAxx a ton.I doubt I 3b that hand vs a utg open, thoughts? -
Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterPokerStars Pot Limit Omaha $0.10/$0.25 - 5 playersSB: $5.45 BB: $83.97 UTG: $26.07 CO: $7.63 Button: $46.14 (Hero)Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is Button with (5 players)UTG raises to $0.85, CO folds, Hero raises to $2, SB raises to $5.45 and is all-in, BB folds, UTG calls $4.60, Hero re-pots or flats?
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Butler, Kansas, and UNC please.
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Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterPokerStars Pot Limit Omaha $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersButton: $15.27 SB: $25.00 BB: $12.00 UTG: $11.18 UTG+1: $53.52 CO: $32.30 (Hero)Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with (6 players)UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $1.10, Button calls $1.10, SB calls $1, BB calls $0.85, UTG calls $0.85Flop: ($5.50) (5 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $2.25, Hero raises to $11.98, Button folds, SB raises to $23.90 and is all-in, BB calls $10.90 and is all-in, UTG calls $7.83 and is all-in, Hero calls $11.92Dont have much left to call in this huge pot, but at the time I was thinking if I didnt have a gut shot and back door flush draw... maybe i should fold?
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Great post. Thanks.I think single suited I am always dumping. I probably open way too many double suited hands from all positions.But what about meta game reasons for doing something spewy like this? We're not that far behind AA**Omaha Hi Simulation ?600,000 trials (Randomized)Hand Equity Wins TiesKhQd6d4h 40.00% 239,055 1,928AA** 60.00% 359,017 1,928Fold first time, fold second time. That is a hand that NLHE players think is pretty but has got so many holes in it that it could double for an episode of lost. Your flush draws are to the second nuts and third nuts. Out of the 6 possible combos in your hand, only KQ and 46 are playable. So you can never make any kind of wrap draws. You are also OOP to half the table. Then you get 3bet by a short stack at 25 PLO which is AA 97% of the time (the other 3% it is AAKK) -
Yeah. I think 3 bet pre with that type of double suited hand actually no matter the opponent, situation, moon phase, etc... (i am lousy at heads up tho)**Wondering if this is ever profitable. I do shit like this all the time in plol.First hand of an omaha match, sigh. I dunno what hands to defend in my bb... obv 3b for value if I knew his opening range was so wideConverting hands till the cows come homeFull Tilt Pot Limit Omaha $0.02/$0.05 - 2 playersButton steveo432: $5.00 BB Hero: $4.00 Preflop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with 
(2 players)steveo432 raises to $0.15, Hero calls $0.10Flop: ($0.30) 
(2 players)Hero checks, steveo432 bets $0.24, Hero raises to $0.95, steveo432 raises to $3.15, Hero raises to $3.85, and is all in, steveo432 calls $0.70Turn: ($8.00) 
(2 players)River: ($8.00) (2 players)steveo432 showed 
, and won ($7.50) with three of a kind, FoursHero showed , and lost with two pair, Queens and Tenssteveo432 won $7.50(Rake: $0.50)beware the feral cow packs. they hunger.PokerStars Pot Limit Omaha $0.10/$0.25 - 5 playersSB: $21.92 BB: $25.00 UTG: $57.83 (Hero)CO: $25.00 Button: $10.25 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with (5 players)Hero raises to $0.85, CO folds, Button raises to $2.90, SB calls $2.80, BB folds, Hero raises to $11.85,
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Dont have a ton of volume but here is lifetime.I know one thing, 87s >>> 87o87s utg+1 in 6max games for the last year:I play it half the time and I lose monies.
Would love to see other ppls tbh, perhaps larger samples
This is just this year.
EDIT: Crap. This is from all positions.
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