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ROFLMAO and I'm holier than thou . . .

What about oranges on the table? Wreaks of unfair advantages . . .

Then lets call it entertainment from here on out, because that is what it is.

Yeah because producing a thesis on this really clears it. up. Give your head a shake and don't hide behind weak arguments.

Where did I say drugs are rampant in poker? That's why Doyle is offering to buy the WPT, DN is pushing stacked and FullTilt is creating live made for TV events. You need to come back to reality on this one. Most games are of chance and skill - you think poker should exsist outside the rest of the world. Which is a fair and valid opinion, but then you shouldn't watch the WSOP and stick to backroom games and championchips built by road gamblers. Cancel your ESPN subscription. I don't want to control anybody. I just don't want to hear that there are users participating in poker tournaments a

cute. :roll:

I've made no assuptions other than saying drugs can enhance the concentration, stamina and focus of a poker player, and that is supported by medical evidence.(or they wouldn't let pilots take billion dollar jets out all hoped up on the stuff.)

Don't you see how there wouldn't even be speculation if there were testing?I'm not saying he was. That was a suspicous video but inconclusive. I just don't want to hear about it and HONESTLY think it would be a good thing if we kept the drunks and user off the tables. Even if it means losing producers and some excellent talent. Fair but the WSOP is supposedly about winning braclets and being the best. I think to recognize the distinction there should be standards set. And again poker is being pushed mainstream by the pros. Should there be drug testing in the olympics? Simple question. Me

1. Because I'm a drug addict and its the least harmful drug I've found. Drugs destroy one thing or another and pot is a way of minimizing that damage.2. My post is because unlike in snowboarding where pot has no affect, there are deffinately drugs that help poker players. It seems unethical. I don't think it will ever happen, but seriously consider if they barred Ungar from winning his last championship. How might the last year of his life gone differently? without a half million in cash?

Well if all we here is that pros can't make it in a feild of 5900+ wouldn't drug testing limit the feild? Wouldn't that give pros a better shot a final tabling? Wouldn't that make for better TV? or doeswatching the mouth play 8 unkowns get your rocks off?I think it would be in the interest of any sport/game that want to conductitself professionally to have a code of conduct. Does drug testing make for better baseball? Probably yes, but these guys are role models (just as poker players are) and should be held to a higher standard if they want a chance a the most prestigous award in the ga

This with someone whose world obviously revolves a little to closely around smash's dick

I'm one of them and I see no clear advantages. I thought poker was a game of skill. It's so funny how you guys are acting like this affect poker in such a major way. The pros are taking poker mainstream, I'm asking if this is a logical extension of that. So if your pissed about how popular poker has become, take it out on the pros . . .DN, Doyle, team FullTilt . . . that's not my problem.But the FACT is poker is becomming mainstream and the pros would like to see more of that. To be taken seriously there should be acceptable and unacceptable conduct. And you guys argue in favour of drug

ROFLMAO You're such a sweetheart.

Maybe the greatest poker player alive would have straightened himself out before going out like a chump. Maybe we would have got to see years and years of Ungar playing. Wouldn't that be something for poker.In the immortal words of Napoleon Dynamite: IDIOTS!

There is a difference between a professional game and amatuer bs that doesn't matter. Unless $7.5 Million is on the line at your bowling league. But that's not the point. I could think of few drugs that might aid bowling, whereas usefull drugs to poker that aid in staying up and staying focused has a whole catalogue of drugs.

But it is altering your state of mind. And can (as in possibly, and very probably) enhance your focus and concentration. Fighter pilots use speed (and drugs like those mentioned above) for just such a purpose. The ME is a test of endurance and should be played on a level field.They gave the gold metal back because the concentrations were low and he said that he was in a room where it was smoked. Beside which pot doesn't cause an advbantage to poker, where drugs we are talking about can very much affect how players do. Because games have rules and should be played fairly. This is not an in

Lol. I've gotten some really interesting responses today. FCP is so funny I wonder how long DN is going to keep this place or if it'll ever get moderated since a bunch of self-absorbed know-it-alls run it like a their own gay bath club.So much intellegence on this board - its no wonder you're not all playing at the bellagio every night. And this after a valid opinion even Trust me champs you're going to go far. With skill of debate like this you guys could be running political campaigns and running the world in no time . . if you can ge tout of mommies basement that is.

Why wouldn't I be serious? Unless you guys don't think poker should be taken seriously?Countless major sporting events require drug testing. There are drugs that can give poker players an advantage. It's just not fair sporting. Unless you're all using during tournaments then I honestly can't see why you wouldn't want poker to have a clean image.

No he was being an anonymous internet ****. If one of your friends asked a question would you be an ass about it. Are you the kind of a-hole who would tell your friend go read your whole physics book before giving him help. Get bent. I did some calculations and asked if it was correct. I wasn't looking for a bunch of fags to tell me I shouldn't post.

Many major professional sports and amatuer events (olympics) require drug testing. If poker really wants to become a main stream sports should drug use be banned?It would certainly thin the field. And I would argue that it can give someone an advantage. If you don't think coke or speed would give you added focus during a grueling tournament like the ME than you've obviously never done these drugs.However think of what could be lost. Stu Ungar would have been banned from competing. The Mouth, though not proven, has likely used during this years main event.What do we want clean poker or anyb

More doucheclowns. Why would I ask the f'ing question if I was positive it was correct. It didn't seem right and I wanted someone to check it out. I thought I read through it twice, but the way cardplayer has it set up its not the easiest to read.But thank you for contributing so little . . .

No need to be a douchebag, just asking the question.

Missed that. Thanks.4x4x120 = 1920

Is this correct?This is the current list:Rank Player Points1 John Phan 4,0322 Maciek "Michael" Gracz 3,3603 Erick Lindgren 3,1684 Ted Forrest 3,1085 Phil Ivey 2,9846 Michael Mizrachi 2,8577 Amir Vahedi 2,5788 Antonio Esfandiari 2,3449 Harry' Demetriou 2,32010 Mark Seif 2,240There are three criteria when calculating points:

One of the problems with (to paraphrase) "wanting to finish a session" is that it changes your mentality and consequently how you play. Concious or unconcious you make "different" decisions in this state. It is almost better to quit if you find yourself thinkin, "I'm going to play 15 more minutes and leave."