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Okay so what's your play on a guy that limps in early then just smooth calls an all-in from another player with me yet to act?Put in a 3rd re-raise or shove??Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 PlayersLeggoPoker.com - Hand History ConverterMP2: $50CO: $8.05BTN: $117.95SB: $50BB: $10UTG: $84.80Hero (UTG+1): $96.15MP1: $30Pre-Flop: K:spade: K:diamond: dealt to Hero (UTG+1)UTG calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.25, 2 folds, CO raises to $8.05 and is All-In, 3 folds, UTG calls $7.55,
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I was going to bet the turn, but my kicker sort of sucked so I elected not to and keep it small since I was in position and I wasn't sure what two cards he could have since it was a blind battle...probably why there wasn't enough information for me to feel good about having to decide whether to lay this down or not.I would play it different in that I would bet the turn but call the river. Makes no sense that he would love that 8 unless he had the 9T of diamonds. -
I shut down as well here only because I didn't want to put him all-in. I wasn't sure if I was ahead or behind at this point. I elected to call. A king came on the turn and he ended up checking so I was able to get a free showdown. I just wasn't sure based on how much he had left if you call the turn to call any bet on the river or to just shove.I've seen this play before, and it's mostly got me to shut down into call mode. I think thats what I would do here, but I also don't think you've missed. This seems to be a play that's been adopted by 2p2ers, you call a pf raise with a medium pair, one paint card comes, so you call what is perceived as a contiuation bet on the flop then lead the turn because you just know that the pf raiser will fold his AK. That being said, it would also be aces, because playing it cute is en vogue. -
No reads, No stats.... Straight or set beats me here folksYour move here??This is a full ring game although there was only 6 players for a short time.Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 PlayersLeggoPoker.com - Hand History ConverterHero (BB): $57.10UTG: $60.35MP: $7.25CO: $12BTN: $48.30SB: $24.50Pre-Flop: 8:spade: J:heart: dealt to Hero (BB)4 folds, SB calls $0.25, Hero checksFlop: ($1) 2:club: J:diamond: 7:diamond: (2 Players)SB checks, Hero bets $0.55, SB calls $0.55Turn: ($2.10) 3:club: (2 Players)SB checks, Hero checksRiver: ($2.10) 8:heart: (2 Players)SB bets $2, Hero raises to $5, SB raises to $15.50,
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depends on if your on tilt or not28ish/ 3ish/17ish/ i dunno i do it a LOT -
That's what had me a little lost on what to do. If I raise I have to put him all-in but I didn't really want to play this pot real big since I wasn't sure what the hell he was doing. If I call I think I have to call any river bet hereI get lost on these hands a lot. The board isn't very connected on the flop so what is the BB c/c with? A set is possible, A5dd, A4dd, does he float KT? He could have also connected with the J, maybe AJ, KJ, QJ, JT, J9. I think he's about committed to the pot with that $13 bet because he has no river options left if you call so shove even though we have no redraw? I don't know...smarter people will comment I'm sure. -
villian stats = VP 33, PR 6, TAPp 1 but only through like 33 handsWhat do you do here on the turn. The line on the flop was to try to have a little bit of pot control that's why my bet was about .75 with multiple callers on this raise just to save some bb especially oopFull Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 PlayersLeggoPoker.com - Hand History ConverterCO: $11.05BTN: $46.70SB: $129.10BB: $40.60UTG: $147.75Hero (UTG+1): $70.55MP1: $44.75MP2: $52.90Pre-Flop: Q:club: Q:diamond: dealt to Hero (UTG+1)UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.75, MP1 calls $1.75, 2 folds, BTN calls $1.75, SB folds, BB calls $1.25Flop: ($7.25) 5:club: 4:spade: J:diamond: (4 Players)BB checks, Hero bets $5, 2 folds, BB calls $5Turn: ($17.25) 9:diamond: (2 Players)BB bets $13,
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I agree with you...I'm just stubborn and wanted to conquer 6 tables which is where I'd probably stop at anyways. I just wanted to see what others do differently when adding more tables. Your answer is the most logical and common sense approach. If it ain't broke why fix it.If your bb/100 was higher playing 4 tables (and especially if your $/hr. was higher) just go back to 4. There is nothing wrong with playing less tables at one time. I can't play anymore than 4 myself. -
Sheiky...I play full-ring games...sorry if I confused. When I said 6 i mean 6 different tables
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Hello everyone,I could use your input good/bad ect for multi-tabling 6. I was doing 4 and move up to 6 the past 2 months and have been taking a beating. I've been missing a ton of value bets because I've lost reads and my bb per 100 has been atrocious. My losing sessions tend to be more than my winning sessions. I'm getting stacked a lot more too and that's probably more my fault then anything. Last month through 24k hands I made 2 buy-ins. The month before I was around 15k hands and up one buy-in. Granted this pool of 6 tabling hands probably doesn't provide enough information to make a valid decision on whether I totally suck at 6 tables. I am in the process of using tracker and ace hud since I've never used it before. Hopefully it will help in some of my decisions. There may not even be a difference in adding two tables. What has been your guys strategy for success. It seems lately I make more money in rake back then playing poker so it's been frustrating. I apologize for the general question here.My game play is somewhat tight but open up with a wide range in the cutoff and on the button. I usually never limp with pp and raise in any pos if I'm going to play it. This is general idea of how I play to help a little bit with my question.Thanks
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Well I know if he's a deeper I can check behind in pos and call a river bet. With only 14 behind him and 14 in the pot already I'd pretty much have to call anything even if I do check behind here on the turnstandard IMHO maybe not bet the turn, but I probably do and go broke here. -
Unlucky here or should I have just start dumping these pre-flop...guy was short stacked so would have played a differently on the turn if he was deeper. I usually don't call raises unless i know there range can be wide and I am in position but will raise in late pos with it if folded to or there are limpers. I don't run into these situations too often but they hurt when you doFull Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 PlayersLeggoPoker.com - Hand History ConverterUTG: $12.70Hero (UTG+1): $58.50UTG+2: $75MP1: $26.10MP2: $17CO: $102.65BTN: $47.25SB: $21.65BB: $64.05Pre-Flop: Q:club: A:club: dealt to Hero (UTG+1)UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.75, 5 folds, SB calls $1.50, BB calls $1.25Flop: ($5.25) A:heart: 6:diamond: T:spade: (3 Players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $5, SB calls $5, BB foldsTurn: ($15.25) 5:heart: (2 Players)SB checks, Hero bets $15, SB calls $14.90 and is All-InRiver: ($45.05) T:club: (2 Players - 1 is All-In)Results: $45.05 Pot ($2.25 Rake)Hero showed Q:club: A:club: (two pair, Aces and Tens) and LOST (-$21.65 NET)SB showed K:diamond: A:spade: (two pair, Aces and Tens) and WON $42.80 (+$21.15 NET)
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To be honest...I don't re-call going to a showdown on a situation like this where someone over-bet the pot like that with a set...Typically what I see is that the set bets out the pot and the draw raises and they get it all-in on the flop. I've been on both sides of this equation, but have never gone to a showdown where I saw a set 4x bet on the flop with villian showing a setDoes a smart player ever shove 4x the pot on the flop? That's why I'm asking. This bet is just so ridiculous, in my opinion, that we can't assume he would do this with an overpair and 2nd nut flush draw and not a set. -
Well I wasn't waiting for the four flush to hit actually. It would have just been a bonus to hit and take down a pot if it did come on the turn...Nevertheless I shoved all-in.I just wanted to see what the norm is here...The results are irrelevant.Out of curiosity would anybody just call and re-evaluate on the turn here?You don't want to wait until the four flush hits the board to try and get money out of the villain, unless he has a set and is drawing to a boat or has something like the Kd he won't pay you at all and even then he won't pay you much. You want to get your money in ahead of that situation occurring.Also, a set isn't going to be overshoving the pot here because a smart player with a set will know he's crushing everything except a made flush, and even against that he has outs. He is playing for value at this point, plenty of hands he beats will pay him. Someone playing for value doesnt shove 4x the pot on the flop.We definitely want to get the money in here, fistpumpinstaallin please. -
I wanted to check raise here if he bet out and if he checked I'm drawing to the nut flush draw cheaply oop. The only problem is when I check he over-bet the pot. I could have taken the line and bet out which I agree with, but I felt at that point that I was in good shape here and took this line instead.1. Why did you check the flop?2. How badly did you hurt your finger clicking "all in" after the action on the flop?3. BBFIDTS I'm sure. -
Yah I agree most just make a standard bet here and make there move on the turn depending on what comes out. What makes it dicey is that based on his bet there's a decent chance he'll stack off with his hole cards if I raise or shove.I shove, I don't think a made flush or a set ever do this and you're crushing everything else in his range. Maybe he has KsKd or something like that. -
oh and if he flopped a set he is for sure going broke with it.
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No notes on the guy and not using pokertracker or hud so we have to play him as standard....By the way...does anyone have pokerstove and mind running the range here that he listed. I wasn't quite sure based on his range what the odds were on this hand.Wow. Fun hand. Love the 4x pot bet. I'll try and see how wrong I am. My guess is that villain has a made hand (probably w/o a diamond) that he doesn't want to get sucked out on. AJ, JJ, QQ, AQ, KK, AA, KQ probably? Is there any way he gives up any of those hands if we shove on him and do we want him to go away? I think our action dies if another diamond falls and we may already have the best hand.I think I shove. -
Call, Raise, FoldFull Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 PlayersLeggoPoker.com - Hand History ConverterUTG+1: $50.70UTG+2: $49.50MP1: $55.25MP2: $21.35CO: $66.65BTN: $50.80Hero (SB): $51.55BB: $49.50UTG: $102.50Pre-Flop: Q
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dealt to Hero (SB)UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $1.50, 5 folds, Hero calls $1.25, BB foldsFlop: ($3.50) 2 Q J (2 Players)Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $13, -
Well at this stakes it would be hard to put someone on a range of that low of cards with his 3 dollar raise that occured pre-flop which usually never happens unless they are trying to make a play or maybe had 9s-AKs and didn't want to see a flop. Is it possible yes, but the likelyhood no. The make up this particular table there wouldn't really be a need to make a play as everyone played pretty standard and I wasn't playing in an agressive manner.To answer the question what does running well at this table have to do with anything. Well if I'm hitting flops I'll be more inclined to make a call why the hell not. And in regards to this particular hand I was going to play it if it was raised anyways. So really my comment was just wasted space.That is a good point brought up odds get good but chances of hitting go down with one card to go. Also, implied odds play an important part since even though you are getting the odds to call how many times are you going to get paid off if you hit. He would have to have a hand that he just couldn't let go off.Well I called this hand here since I was getting good pot odds to call this. I hit my straight on the river and ended up betting 30 into this pot where he shoved. He hit a set on turn so I was only drawing to the straight. The funny part is that the only reason he bet so small on the turn is because he hit which became an advantage for me in cost for one more card. I think any other card lower than his 10 he probably would have bet more.How many of you woud agree that going into the turn here that you would have to have the right pot odds to make this call? I think a bet any higher I couldn't have called. And no way I would shove here. I wasn't quite sure where I was at and being oop I'd rather keep the pot small.
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To be honest, I got results oriented on the turn thinking I wasn't going to get there instead of thinking about the pot and implied oddds of hitting haha.What changed from the flop to the turn?You're getting better odds now, than you got on the flop. -
I was curious to know your guys take on what to do on the turn here? Was running pretty decent on this table so I decided to call the raise pre-flop after limping. I usually raise pre-flop with pp in any position.I think this is an install, but wanted to get re-assurance.He bet 10 into this pot so it only cost me 10 to a pot of 30. I thought I had some decent implied odds here if he had high pp since he wouldn't put me on my hand.Full Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.509 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $36.40UTG+1: $39.95Hero: $113.75MP2: $45MP3: $59.30CO: $22.55Button: $29.30SB: $49.50BB: $96.90Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP1 with
:D UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $0.5 (pot was $1.25), MP2 folds, MP3 raises to $3, 5 folds, Hero calls $2.5 (pot was $4.75).Flop: 
:D ($7.25, 2 players)Hero checks, MP3 bets $6, Hero calls $6 (pot was $13.25).Turn: ($19.25, 2 players)Hero checks, MP3 bets $10, -
I haven't seen him do anything stupid. I don't believe him to be lag or anything. I only have 16 invested in the pot and now I have to call another 30 here. I'm a little over 2:1 if I do the math right. It probably would be a not so bad call here.During the time you've been at the table, has the villain been doing anything out of line? I know you said no reads from trackers, but general observation may help.A set would be pretty well disguised and very well might push with the draws on the board. Villain might be putting you on AKdd or AQdd and trying to push you off the hand with TT or 88. I think JJ - AA might have re-raised from MP pf. 89dd is possible too depending on the villain. You're getting something like 3:2 with an overpair.I think I call here. -
Is your reasoning because of the overbet/shove??I call.
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