If you read my description of MP1 he may have hit the flop and he may not have. If he had some rags that hit one pair on the flop, how are my outs not live?Also note that everytime I pair on the river the flush misses.Bubba meant if he had something like A5 or K4 or something along those lines.Also either one of the flushes can hit when you pair. K of spades of Ace of diamonds. If you really to showdown just call here. He's not going to fold to another raise (or give you a free showdown) most likely and this point he's only been saying he's got you beat.