very well said... i'm a hellmuth fan and i totally agree... hellmuth is a SICK hold 'em tourney player but it seems to me that he's looking to make the big laydown instead of looking to take a big pot.. that said, i just watched the TOC final table for the 2nd time tonight and anyone who thinks phil played poorly is a a complete idiot...i think part of the problem is that when you're held to such a high standard (in a lot of ways phil's fault) people are critical with a microscope(like in the case of tiger woods). i mean let's face, none of these poker players are THAT good. they're better