CraigKrill

In a word, yes, and that's a good question. For me it means a commitment to cherishing wife number two as much as wife number one, there is a level of commitment to second hubby as well, to be a good friend and good man and to honor that trust he gives me with his number one and in a way, his life. Does it mean we will all never swing again? No. We could. We've talked about it. That would be something we would do if it was agreed on, and that's a funny subject. Me and number two are done, but in speaking about it the other two are more open about that idea, and so what two and I have said is b

Most are. It's the calling it marriage that irks naysayers. When we get "married" in July, were not calling it a marriage, were calling it a commitment ceremony. I will post pics.

If I may, not douchey. Maybe a tad gay, like "I'll suck a small dick but not a big one" gay, but not douchey. To be sure, I am douchey. Just not for that reason.

Hmmmmm......I do feel the need on some level to prove that it's not a joke, at the same time while we are out, we are careful, in that careers could be hurt. That's a struggle for us. Friends all know, most family, but past that were pretty careful. Tell you what, lets take a pics or it didnt happen approach. I will post pics with faces scrubbed, and at some point when I feel comfortable and feel it's controllable I will link Facebook. There is also a blog in the works as well, just working in having enough content because it may be monetized in some way.

It's like at work, the girl who has like twenty commendations for various bullshit that no one cares about, and acts all haughty to the point where everybody hates her face, but no one can really point at anything except that she is really annoying. I really hate that girl.

So, just finished planning out an end of April staycation. It's sort of anniversary number two, in that we had first date night, night after that was good old first time ****in night, then a month later, at the end of April, there was a house party where we had not seen each other for a month, and we all realized after 6 hours of going at it where we locked the doors and the rest of the party was not allowed in, well, we realized shit was different. So, were gonna have some in town fun. Night one at Talking Stick resort, night two at The Clarendon downtown (Tickets to Christopher Titus at Stan

I won't do to many long ones. If I did, would you rather read crazy sex stories or actual in depth relationship analysis?

Just as much bulllshit as any relationship for sure. Sometimes more. It's a lot to maintain. Me and my wife. Me and my second. All four of us. Me and other husband. Me, other husband and second wife......and on. Multiple dynamics all which have its own set of challenges. I love it, never bored.

So, since this has been kind of nice to just talk a bit about our crap, and I had mentioned that maybe I would tell the tale of my mom coming to work when she caught wind of what was really going down with our new "friends", here goes. Months into the relationship and things are going well. We have had multiple "family" days to get to know each other and a date has been set for move in to the new place. I am psyched, what man wouldn't be? On a Sunday night my mom shows up out of the blue at my work, with a letter, hand written. I just want to say that I love my mother and this story m

Weekend was a dud. Happens sometimes. Something's had been brewing for awhile and it all just came to a head, super fun. We actually ended up skipping the brewery and going to this wine bar called Vintage 95 out in Gilbert. Great spot, romantic,love it. The dinner started out well, shared an appetizer, just talked and relaxed like we always do. Two bottles in Wife number two pulls out last months budget numbers, what the surplus was, what we paid towards debt, etc. Why? We don't ****ing know. The woman is an absolute hawk when it comes to money, easily our biggest pain point. I like t

That's a tough read. I have a hard time taking this serious on any real level, this is not new from NK, but, I think as a nation we should be ready to defend, which I think we are. I feel bad for this idiots citizens, lets pretend he actually acted on a threat. They are dead. Although maybe that's better.

So, anyway, Saturday is the anniversary of our first "date". We're going back to the same spot we met, it's a little college hangout not far from ASU called Four Peaks. If it was Fall I could get a growler of the Pumpkin Porter which is just killer. Oh, well, I will have to just have something else. They had some sort of Rye wine last time that was like 13% alcohol last time I went that was really good. A lot has happened this year, moved in, got engaged, bought a few new cars with different couple combos on the titles, got all the kids on the same schedules and doing there thing, were in

We schedule. No tag teamed. It's not off the table but there would have to be some evolving of the relationships, probably, and I know for sure only one of them would be comfortable with that anyway. As it is now it's more like I have two very distinct marriages and in each one it's very private but not, if that makes sense. As far as open, you mean in terms of willingness to do things or blown up? Definitely willing. Not blown out. The toys are more, he just likes to use toys when he's doing his thing. I don't get it, I can get the same reactions with just me, maybe some fingers here or there

Don't forget how nonchalant I am about it. In my swinging days only 3 times did I meet my match. I hear my brother has me beat but I have never seen it personally. Which I am okay with, because I don't need any Highlander moments. Too busy. Enough about my dick though, the Heat, 26 straight right?

Maybe someday when I am not at work on an I Phone I will tell the tale of the time my very religious mother came to work and confronted me once she got wind that we were taking the leap and moving in together. That was both awesome and horrible.

It's more confidence,but having a big dong doesn't hurt. Hes actually a tad longer, while I am much thicker. We both have our own skills. He relies on toys more, I don't need em. Find they get in the way. Sadly, though, it's not about sex as much as you would think. We're actually fairly normal. When we threw an engagement party and all my vanilla slightly stunned curious friends came, the best compliment I received was that we just make he life look matter of fact and normal.

I see "new" wife most of the time and "old" wife on average once a week. Right now were all just enjoying the new couplings. There are three kids in the house, so threesomes rarely happen, just no time, and when we do same room all four we inevitably end up in different rooms. Most days we have to choose one or the other if sex is involved because were all clean so we go unprotected, and the lady parts can be sensitive to all the fluids.

Depends on the individuals involved. We've talked about that, and initially we all just swung together. A lot of parties, a lot of group stuff, and for us we found that everybody else was a waste of time. I don't think we could handle a third, already not enough time to go around.

Used to swing. What we do now was never supposed to be. To be sure, it took awhile to realize that it was even possible. When I realized I was in love, or had fallen for, number two, first I told number two, and then immediately called number one to tell her. Her reaction? "I could have told you that." Her strength and character allowing me to do what I do with number two is all I need to make it okay that another dick is running wild up in the house. By the same token he has been so cool with allowing wife number two the space to do what she does with me that I appreciate it and have no issue

Actually, we have talked about "What if one wants out." Nightmare scenario, to be sure. How ****ing dumb will all of us look when we told the kids that love can look like a lot of things, mommy and daddy still love each other, etc., and then one of us bails? Ugh. That being said, if any one of us wanted out, that's fine, but rule number one would be, the bailing party doesn't have the right to interfere. Like, if I left I couldn't say my wife could no longer see second husband. (Truthfully I wouldn't want too, she loves him.) Could it all blow up? Sure, so could any marriage or business arrang

Been lurking here for awhile, some of you are smart, it seems to be a good mix of opinions with a smattering of stupidity here and there. Anyway, I am curious what the views are on this issue? I threw in Polygamy and Polyamory as well because I believe in love in all its forms and think it should be part of the discussion. Just so you know, I do have a dog in this fight, as I am Poly and am involved in a four way "marriage" 2 dudes and 2 wimmens. So, my views will come from a biased stand point as I am very committed to both my wives and view then both as partners for life, and would love

Apparently gay marriage is an issue being bandied about.

Not all that serious. I imagine the events entered far outweigh the total amount cashed. I was just curious if DN would in fact post with actual numbers that he has kept track of. That Arnold GIF deal made me laugh, good one.

I would have to see how many he had entered lifetime, buy ins spent vs. cashes and hours played to see what success looks like to Daniel. These numbers really don't say anything without more info.