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2-7 triple draw, Pot Limit Omaha, Pot limit Hold em, No Limit Hold em, Omaha 8 or better, Stud H/L, Limit Hold em, Razz.That probably reflects my favorite games and my order of preference, though the disparity is slim, as I particularly enjoy limit holdem, yet I think I would first play in the games listed ahead when given the option. I play Pot limit Hold em and Limit Hold em most frequently.
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Thanks for sharing the experience. Good luck with the WSOP this year.Question: Based on you super-satalitte experience, what would say is the best style of play to win? Would you see a lot of flops and hope to pick up a big hand?Would you say playing a high percentage pre-flop game superior?
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Good read Suited. Congrats on the win and good luck with the event. I've played railbird on a few occasions and seen you play, and in my humble opinion, I think you could do quite well in the big tourney. I look forward to hearing about your experience.
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My vote goes to Chans 1,1,2 finishes despite the smaller field sizes. However, Harrington's record of a 1st in '95 and back to back final tables in the largest tourneys ever assembled is absolutely amazing over a ten year period.
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Every situation is different and might call for a different proportionally-sized bet. I tend to like to bet as close to the pot size as possible, while still realistically expecting a call. Usually this is about 2/3 the pot. This bet can be be anything from a bluff to the nuts, so your opponent will likely call if holding a decent 2nd tier hand ex. a set vs. your flush.
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If your are playing a tight-aggressive strategy as you say, I'd stick to limit play and avoid the no limit and pot limit games, though these games can be very profitable, as far as the lower levels are concerned. I give this advice, because limit is geared toward tight-aggressive play. By playing proper hands correctly, you should produce a decent average/100 hands. With a $100-200 bankroll you can play 10c/20c limit to 25c/50c limit. When you get to $300, you can consider moving to 50c/$1, though I would suggest building it furter to $400 before making that move. As for your current way of play, I'd try to disuade you from jumping up to $1/$2. You may have found success here, as your skill may be appropriate, however, your bankroll is not. Eventually this routine will fail simply due to variance. The low-limit tables can be frustrating due to fish and their erractic behavior and poor judgement. It isn't fun when your opponent calls you to the river hold J5 and hits runner-runner 5 , 5 to take out your AA. However, it must be realized that these are precisely the players that we want playing with us. Play within your bankroll and play enough hands, and bad beats have very little significance. Good luck to you.
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If I wanted to get anillated at a table, I'd play a mixed game rotation with:1) Johnny Chan2)Jennifer Harmen3)Daniel Negreanu4)Gus Hansen5)Phil Ivey6)Doyle Brunson7)Chip Reese8) John Juanda9) Chau CiangSo, pretty much the big game at Bellagio would be a fine way for me to drop a million, with the exception of Juanda, I just have to include him due to his tournament success and the well known fact that he used to crush the LA games, particularly 2-7 lowball.
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I can't think of many situations in which I would fold KK preflop. If the tightest player on the table came over the top all in with 3 raises in front of him...i could fold KK, then again maybe not.
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I was somehow fortunate to discover stocks and investing at a relatively young age when I was taken to a stock market seminar. Over three days, I sat there in complete awe, a 16 year old sitting among businessmen. I remember the charts and graphs, and sitting alone with my calculator figuring out my future fortune. This took place in the mid 90s, in midst of a huge bull market. Options and day trading were the way it was being done, and how I "learned" the stock market. I took what money I had saved and along with an older brother, and father, made my first stock purchase, a small midwest company that had something to do with finance. None of us knew much about the company, its leader, or even its product. We were looking at a chart, which had shown the tendency to "roll" like a wave, up and down again in repeated cycles. We thought if we bought on the bottom of a roll and sold at the top, then repeated again and again, we'd soon be rich. However, as soon as we bought the stock, it decided to come to a complete halt and flatlined, as if it had been pulled from life support. We weren't loosing money, but we sure weren't making much, so one afternoon at lunch we made the decision to sell and look for something better. We made this decision after only holding the stock a little over a week. Thus, my brother called in the order to sell just before the market closed one afternoon. I woke up the next morning and proceeded to scan the wall street journal, my new morning routine before catching my bus. I came home from school that day, my newspaper still in hand and rather marked up with red pen, circles around numbers and ticker symbols, the letter abbreviations that identify a company on the stock market. I walked through the door, and there stood my brother and dad. I thought perhaps somebody had died, as it was unusual for both to be home at that hour. Thankfully nobody had left us, but I was informed that we had made the decision to sell our stock one day too soon. It turned out the company carried a number of valuable assets and had been purchased. This stock that had traded for a small amount was now worth a big amount. I quickly pulled out my calculator and figured that my share would have been worth some $50,000, a huge sum for a 16 year old. I was devasted.A lesson was learned that day, or rather a seed was planted. I decided that day that I wanted to figure out what make a stock tick, what made it move up or down, everything I could possibly learn. Bottom line: I wasn't going to buy or sell another stock until I knew the company well and could make an educated decision. It was a lesson that I feel I was extremely fortunate to learn at such a young age. I've spent my years since scouring through the internet and reading analyst reports, balance sheets, annual reports, the availability of which has increased from moderately difficult access to amazingly easy thanks to the internet. I think the stock market is largely why I intially became interested in poker. They both contained similarities and rewarded research, study, and correct decisions. About the stock in which I missed a $50,000 payday, I later learned that I infact would not have earned such a sum. Turns out the company did indeed contain valuable assets, but also was in financial distress. A larger, healthier company came in and made the purchase, the stock holders were likely left with worthless stock in a bankrupt company. Therefore, by commiting an error, I thought I had made an error, and thus I learned to correct that error, which in fact, never would have been beneficial.Anyway, I still have plenty to learn, but love the journey. If you have any questions or opinions, feel free to message me. There is money to be made, but like a successful poker player, it doesn't happen by dumb luck...at least not usually.
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I'm sure it has been done, with some aggressive gambling anything is possible. However, the odds are slim, very slim. Bobby Baldwin had an incredibly lucky streak many years ago that took him from nearly nothing to a very large sum.Could you do it in another year? That is possible with 1)skill 2)time 3)proper bankroll management. It might be a stretch, but with the proper amount of time, it should be achievable. Let's say you reach $10,000. You will have invested a large amount of time, and effort to reach that point. I wouldn't recommend buying in to the main event at that point. You might make the money, and potentially score big, but odds are you would leave having lost the rewards of your efforts. I'd recommend using the bankroll to play 10/20 limit games or 15/30 and building your bankroll beyond that point. In a couple of years, you could have a bankroll to play some of the smaller events, while earning a very decent amount playing the mid limits. Along the way, you could consider entering super satallites and possibly playing in some WPT events or the World Series. Whatever you decide to do, good luck in your journey.
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You sometimes need to calculate the odds on the river in order to justify a call. This hand would be an example:Heads up hand- we had been on the same table for some time and YYY had been playing fairly well. I had folded to him on a few occasions in smaller pots, despite believing I had the best hand, in order to give him the impression he could get me off of hands. After the table broke up a bit, we ended up heads up and had been playing for about 20 minutes when this hand came up. I saw AA and decided against YYY, the best way to play the hand would be straightforward, as he had always played back at me when I played aggressive. Stage #101495944: Holdem Pot Limit $0.05 [2005-03-24 05:41:50]Seat 2 - YYY $23.72 in chipsSeat 9 - CRAZY78 $35.33 in chips*** BLIND [dealer 2] ***CRAZY78 - Post small blind $0.05YYY - Post big blind $0.10CRAZY78 - Pocket [Ac,As] CRAZY78 - Raises $0.05 to $0.30YYY - Calls $0.20 .60 in pot*** FLOP [3s,10c,2h] ***CRAZY78 - Bets $0.60YYY - Raises $0.60 to $2.40CRAZY78 - Calls $1.80 5.40 in pot*** TURN [3s,10c,2h,4c] ***CRAZY78 - ChecksYYY- Bets $5.40CRAZY78 - Calls $5.40 16.20 in pot*** RIVER [3s,10c,2h,4c,7c] ***CRAZY78 - ChecksYYY - All-In $15.62 31.82 in potCRAZY78 - Calls $15.62 2 to 1 odds… putting *** SHOW DOWN *** him on KT or something like it YYY - Show cards [10h,5d] CRAZY78 - Show cards [Ac,As] *** RESULT ***Total Pot($47.44) Rake ($1)Board [3s,10c,2h,4c,7c]YYY - HI:One pair, tens [10h,5d - P:10h,B:10c,B:7c,P:5d,B:4c] CRAZY78 - Total ($46.44) HI:($46.44)One pair, aces [Ac,As - P:As,P:Ac,B:10c,B:7c,B:4c] Granted, I might not have played my AAthe best here and am rather critical on a few of my actions. However, this hand illustrates an example of calculating pot odds on the river. On the river, I checked believing my opponent wouldn't want to commit more money with top pair. Het goes all-in for $15.62 into a $16.20 pot making the pot $31.82. This left me with a difficult decision. I went through the range of hands he could have including a set, a flush, two pair, a straight, or top pair. I relplayed in my head how the hand had played out. As stated above in my journal commentary, my opponent had been playing back at me when I was aggressive preflop or on the flop. Thus, I knew he could be holding any hand. My largest concern was a set. Though the board was showing a possible straight, I wasn't overly concerned as I felt he would have slowed down on the turn trying to get more on the river (seemed to be a common tactic of his). In the end, I felt rather strong that he had connected with the flop with either top pair or a set, or maybe a pocket pair unimproved. My decision came down to math.I took the $31.82 pot in front of me and weighed the value in calling $15.62. I was getting roughly 2 to 1 on my call (apprx. 32/16=2 ). This means that I only need to be correct 33% of the time to make a call correct here. I actually like to add some safety % into the equation, so in my book, I needed to feel my AA would beat my opponents hand 40% of the time in order to call.As you can see, I made the call and my opponent turned up top pair with a poor kicker. He had roughly 8 outs to win on the turn, and had decided to go allin vs. checking on the river.
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Canada Kelly provides an excellent list and I like a few others here as well, Iveyfan30 definitely has some quality picks. For some added variety:Pinball Wizard - The WhoLucky- RadioheadGood Vibrations - Beach BoysToday - Smashing PumpkinsTom Sawyer - RushGet off of my Cloud - The Rolling Stones Under Pressure - David Bowie and QueenBe Here Now - OasisFast Car - Tracy ChapmanCasino Queen - WilcoIt's all been done - Barenaked LadiesMac the Knife - Bobby DarinDo you believe in Magic - the Lovin' Spoonful
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How about being involved in a pot and you get your last opponent to fold his hand.He says, "You have a big pocket, don't you?"You pause, and kind of get a perplexed look on your face. You reply, "You know, I'm not sure what I have, let's look." You then flip over your cards to reveal what you have to the table, and to see for the first time yourself what you were betting with. You see, you were doing a little excercise in reading your opponent, and actually never looked at your cards, though you might have appeared to have done so. As chance would have it, you have 7
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1 is real low, I actually get pretty mad when im averaging 2 as well... You can succesfully mantain a 2-3 bb/100 at anything under 3/6 depending on the site and at party.. it should be no problem.1 definitely refers to higher limits as more pros enter play. In the micro-limits, and typical online game, I agree that 2BB is very feasable playing tight-aggressive, especially on the right table. We measure success in cash game by BB/100. To the new player, I believe they should first learn what it takes to not be a losing player. They need to read SSHE, and a few others to learn some fundamentals. They need to gain experience, learning to recognize situations that are optimal for profit. If they do this, they are ahead of a great majority of players. At this stage, I would say this player is doing fine simply staying even. Once they learn to play the game profitably, they can start focusing on what it takes to maximize profits. They need to learn what it takes to earn 1BB/100. When they reach this point, experience will play a large role in their profits. They shouldn't be discouraged because they are only clearing 1.6BB/100, but rather be optimistic that they are learning, and that earning 2BB consistantly is feasable as they continue to learn. What we make per 100 is relative to experience and proper application of the lessons learned with that experience. I think there comes a point in every player that has gone through this experience when they start to wonder, what more can I do? They start to flatline. This is the point when a noticeable drop in their rate becomes bothersome. If they normally make near 3BB, then only making 2.2BB over their past 10,000 hands starts to bother them. The frustration increases as they progress up in limits and find that it is increasingly difficult to make their previous standard. By the time they reach some of the midlimit games, they find that the rate they previously found disgusting is now terrific. The ratio of loosing players to winning players grows slimmer. What we make per 100 is relative to the skill of our opposition.
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I keep my stacks in groups of 20s, and can sometimes be overly preoccupied in keeping them orderly. This organized manner reflects my naturly conservative or tight nature.It should be noted that I may not be percieved as being a conservative player by many on my tables. I raise with a variety of hands, and am very aggresive preflop, seeing a lot of flops. However, once the flop comes down, I play a very conservative and tight-aggressive game. Thus, though I may appear maniacal by a new player, my style actually is reflected in neat and orderly stacks in front of me.Howard Lederer keeps his stacks is huge rising towers. I think the stacks reflect his play from what info I've gathered. They are impossing, as he can be. They are organized, as he can be. They are unconventional, as he can be. And if they get bumped wrong, they may tilt and topple, as he...well, that may be going too far.
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Depending on the limits played, you should look for 1- 3 BBs per 100 hands . If you're doing more than that over 10,000 hands, you're crushing the game.
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I find that when I go on a loosing streak, it is intiated by a run a poor cards. This in normal, and happens. Now, I usually manage tilt very well during ring games, and rarely do I allow a bad beat to negetively affect my play during the next few hands. What I can do though, is gradually go on tilt. I may not suspect it at first. I simply loosen up a bit, just a hair. Then I make a bad call. Next I overplay a flopped set. Now I call a gutshot heads up with one card to come. Opps, I just called another. Now we have a problem. Next thing I know I'm stringing together losses like I'm beading a necklace. In the past, I made a few fateful trips to higher limits in a hope of making up my losings. And...Ruin. Here's my solution, knowing that I'm vulnarable to slowly turning into a full-blown tilted monster, I head to lowest limit tables of 2c/4c. I then proceed to play completly wreckless. I raise, raise some more, and then raise some more just for kicks. I'll do this for as long as I feel is needed. It might be 10 minutes and it might be for 3 sessions. I play until I have all wrecklessness purged from my system. One more thing. At the end of my wreckless session, I stop playing reckless postflop. I'll continue to raise and cap preflop, but will try to play smart postflop. Soon I find myself based on level ground. By doing this at the lowest limits, I can loose a ton a BB and have very minimal effect on my bankroll. Heck, sometimes I actually come out winning.I can soon return to playing my game.EDIT: After reading my post, I didn't like the way I portrayed my adjustment to playing smart after playing reckless. I want to stress that this kind of happens naturally. I start out playing reckless, but soon find myself tapering off and soon I'm playing smart postflop. It isn't anything forced. BTW, this is extremely fun. Feels good to actually give a bad beat vs. being the reciever every once in a while
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19,500 for the month of March
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Name pros are continuing to win major tournaments with large fields and two-three find themselves on TV tables. I don't think the days of a name pro winning the big one are over. Granted, the odds are diminished when dealing with such enormous fields, but these guys are pros, and are learning to adapt. The more typical winner will be someone like Greg Raymer. A very solid cash game player with some tournament experience. I'd look at the mid-level LA or Bellagio games, 50-100 limits and up for your likely relative unknowns. Throw in the the many winning online players who successfully play 30-60 and above, and you'll likely locate your a probable winner.
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2-7 Triple Draw is probably my favorite game. Sad part is it very difficult to find live play outside of casinos and UltimateBet is the only place online. You'll find the best NL limit tourney players often make the best lowball players...guys like Gus, Daniel, and Juanda.
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A sample of my current playlist: songs1) American Idiot - Green Day 2) Hummingbird - Wilco3) Little by little - Oasis4) Yellow Ledbetter - Pearl Jam5)Almost forgot myself - Doves6) Dolphins - Bright Eyes7) Bowl of Oranges - Bright Eyes8) Karma Police- Radiohead9) Sing - Travis10) Crown of Love - Funeral11) Disarm- Smashing Pumpkins12) Seven Nation Army - White Stripes13) Baba O'Reilly - The Who14) One - U215) What you deserve- The Exies16) Sultans of Swing - Dire Straights17) Kashmir - Led Zeppilen18) Tiny Dancer- Elton John19) In my Life- Dave Matthews cover of Beatles classic20) Hurt - Johnny Cash21) Iris - Goo Goo Dolls22) While my Guitar Gently Weeps - George Harrison23) Send in the Clowns - Frank Sinatra24) What'd I Say - Ray Charles25) Tears in Heaven - Eric Clapton26 ) Stan- Eminem... live performance with Elton John27) Suspicious Minds - Elvis Presley28) London Calling - The Clash29) The Rising - Bruce Springstein30) White Flag - Dido31) Hotel California - The Eagles32) Lola - The Kinks33) Trouble - Coldplay34) Under Pressure - David Bowie and Queen35) Scenes from an Italian Cafe - Billy Joel36) Hurricane - Bob Dylan37) Take me Out - Franz Ferdinand38) Somebody told me - The Killers39) Breakaway - Kelly Clarkson ... you're free to give me a hard time, but she's proving she has potential as an actual longterm deal.40) Romeo's Tune - Steve FolbertOkay... I should stop here, but I think I'll go for 10 more41) Cupid - Sam Cooke...live performance at the Harlem Club...amazing42) Comfortably Numb - Scissor Sisters43) Gimme Shelter - The Rolling Stones44) The Killing of Georgie - Rod Stewart45) Arms of a Women - Amos Lee ... he's like Stevie Wonder on a guitar46) How Can you mend a broken heart - Al Green47) Whiter Shade of Pale - Procul Harem48) Throw your arms around me - Neil Finn with Pearl Jam49) Sitting on the Dock of the Bay - Otis Redding50) Pink Moon - Nick DrakeAlright..Dang, I just can't stop...just 5 more51) Grace - Jeff Buckley52) Narcolepsy - Ben Folds Five53) Silent Sigh - Badly Drawn Boy54) Walking in Memphis - Marc Cohn55) Old Habits Die Hard - Mick Jagger and Dave StewartAnd...one more56) Love will tear us apart - Joy division
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Very funny read... I think I'll start laughing everytime I look at K3 again, just picturing the King Crab dance. This is really going to mess up my game.
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As in investment choices, one might want to analyze high risk vs. low risk as well. We have shorthanded games and full ring games. One might sit back and play exclusively at full ring games, and make their 2BB/100. Then again, they might add some shorthanded games where they might clear 4BB/100. Their bottom line might have a better overall return. A little diversification can be a good thing.
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400 hands is a standard session for me. That is for internet play, 3 tabling for a couple hours. In live play, 6-8 hours is what I'm comfortable with, though I find I can stay focused much longer if the game is good.
what's your favorite game?
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