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  1. First thought was "American Idiot" by Green Day. I thought it about it, and even I was offended by my accusation.Second thought was "Logical Song" by Supertramp. That might be going to far though.Third thought was "Behind Blue Eyes" by the Who, but my eyes haven't been blue since I was 6 months old. I just liked the image, which would fit Dan Harrington.Then I thought of "My Way" by Frank Sinatra, as that pretty much sums it up. Though the Sid Vicious version might be a little more accurate depiction.

  2. Congratulations! It always feels good when we pass those certain milestones. For many on here, those milestones are at $100, then at $200, $500, $1000, $5000, $10000, etc. One great thing about poker when played in a winning manner, is that is measurable. We progress through limits and increase our bankrolls as we succeed. We sometimes have to step down a level or two, when we run into variance or start to play inferior to our opponents. These are often the very frustrations that lead many players to make poor bankroll management decisions which lead to catastrophic results. I commend any player that is able to steady progress and who learns to deal with the swings.Great job, and good fortune to you in the future!

  3. Depending on chip counts and blind structure, it is difficult to determine if this was a poor or good move. It sounds as if you were trying to protect your hand, and simply wanted to take the pot down vs. gaining value from your hand. Not to criticize your play, as I don't know the total picture, but one thought I have about protecting a hand: In a scenario such as the one described, an all-in bet often appears suspicious of a bluff or a mediocre hand. It is a rather natural suspicion I think, by both poor players and good players. Why would this be a natural suspicion? On a board of KKJ, how would a player play any hand with a king? How would he play the premium king hands of AK, KQ, and KJ? With these premium hands, the player will naturally try to extract value from his hand, typically done (and I don't necessarily agree with doing this) by some form of a slowplay. If you had any other king, you might be slightly concerned of kicker problem, and bet both to gain value and information. How about hands containing a jack? The natural thing is to first find out if your opponent has a king. This is usually done with a standard bet or raise. The same thing applies if you hold a pocket pair. How would a draw like QT play the hand? Such a hand is played countless ways, but does not exclude an all-in, as many like to play draws very strong.In your case, you mentioned that you didn't look at the flop and instead watched your opponent, where you acertained that they didn't have a hand. Good read. This definitely puts you in a separate category from most players. You confidently gained the information wanted without making any kind of bet. Now let's go back to your opponents possible thinking. He makes a small raise in the SB preflop and is called by you in the BB. The flop come JKK, which he is probably has his eyes glued to, like most players. For whatever reason, and there could be many, he decided to check. You go all-in. He is now on the defensive and in a big way. What is going through his mind in that instant? Countless thoughts are cramming his brain. Though he may not recognize it, he is remembering past situations and hands such as this. He is also reverting to natural tendancy, which is to defend. In that instant, he decide that things don't add up for you to have a solid hand. He calls believing his ace high to be good, because of natural intincts. Again, I am in no way saying that this player made a good call. I've seen this situation many times, and surprisingly enough, that call ends up winning, as their opponent was indeed bluffing. I'm simply trying to identify how a player reacts when facing an all-in bet, especially on a board such as KKJ. As players, and students of the game, we should try to understand how our opponents think. Granted, every player will have a unique thought process, but their are some thought processess that are natural and intinctual to nearly all persons, such as those described above.How do we play this hand then? Well, as mentioned, there are many factors such as chip counts and blind stucture that would be important to know. However, if the goal is to protect the hand, it might me best to play the hand in a way that conveys the information to your opponent that you are indeed holding a solid hand, without suspicion. A standard bet on the flop will be effective in getting an opponent analyze their hand, but in a more logical and less defensively instinctive way. You may be called, and then need to analyze the situation on the turn. If a Q or an A has come, you can slow down. In most cases, you will be able to take the pot down at this point with another bet, when your opponent will have been forced to think TWICE about their hand. With a hand like A-high, they will give up and look for better opportunities.

  4. Great read AllenRay4.I love stuff like this! I read one of the original posts when you were on the tables, and my first thought was, "okay. What's the big deal?" However, I decided to go check out the table, and play a railbird for a bit. I have to admit, I was quickly drawn into the excitement. You were right about the $600 mark at this time, and I saw the hand when you made the set on the turn or river with 44 (I think).Anyway. Great job. I love to play the little pot limit tables over on Absolute as a break from my regular limit games. I don't know, you might have inspired me to do something insane, though I know I can't come close to 41 hours. A 24 hour session would be more than substantial for me.

  5. Bet this hand in most cases. However, you very well might get a check-raise from the SB or BB here. In such a scenario, you'll need to evalute a the situation. If a check-raise narrows the field to you and that player, I would reraise, gaining some information. If I don't improve my hand on the turn, I will take a free card to the river in most cases, based on my opponents tendencies. Of course, by checking the turn, you give away a lot of information on your hand. I said bet in most cases above, the exception being when I am nearly certain the SB or BB is going to check-raise based on their previous betting tendecies. Not that this is a bad situation, it just isn't going to maximize my chances of winning the hand, and narrows the possibility of a very large pot if I have multiple players in the pot.

  6. Taking a real business situation, lets look at a small business and a scenario that many in the business world face. Lets say James Doe has decided to go into the service industry. He wants to clean carpets, so he takes some of his savings and buys the necessary equipment at a cost of $5000. He needs customers, so he also invests another $1000 for various advertising (flyers, yellow page listing, etc.). He proceeds to recieve a favorable respone and his schedule quickly becomes full. A few months later, he is able to draw an income of $2500/month for his living. He has also managed to pay back to his savings his inititial investment of $6000. At this point, a friend, notices his success and approaches him. He proposes a partnership. However, he is unable to commit time, but can invest dollars. When is this a good decision for James? How much would his friend need to invest for it to make sense? Under what conditions?I'll let everybody give their take on this issue, and then I'll give my analysis. I think the situation is actually very similar to that faced by Akishore.

  7. I personally find myself reverting to "math-based decisions" on a regular basis. I try my best to play a game based on feel, and try to follow my instincts. However, when my insticts fail me, I have to go with the math and make a call if the pot odds dictate that I should. It is my opinion that most players that I encounter would be better served incorporating more math into their game. I see it with both good players and poor players. The good players fold many hands, almost as if they were competing for some kind of mythical prize, "and the greatest laydown goes to... ." The poor players are calling stations calling with anything regardless of reason.

  8. I don't doubt James Wood's IQ or capacity as a poker player. I took his comments in humor, and don't believe he pretends to think he is a world class player. Does he have the potential to be? Maybe so.As for IQ, as stated above, 187 is rare indeed. So extraordinarly rare that you might meet one person in your lifetime with such an IQ, and I even doubt that. Statistically, we shouldn't have such a person in the U.S., but I personally feel that the figures that the orginal test were based on might not have been accurate with their deviation, though not by far. I've always been viewed as intelligent by others, which continues to surprise me. I don't consider myself a whizkid, but math came easy, and my critical thinking scores have always been high. On the official IQ test, I came in at 135. I state that score, because I honestly have no clue how accurately it measures my intelligence. I personally thought the test, though interesting, could not possibly assign an intelligence rating. On a number of the questions, I could see how a person could intelligently come up with a couple different answers. In many ways, I consider myself to be very average. To me, the IQ score means very little.

  9. I had a previous bankroll, which I now term as 'buried', though I didn't exactly go broke. I played off that for a year and a half, and then decided I needed to make some changes with my poker game. I took some time off online poker, and decided to come back into the game in November of 04'. My primary concern this time was proper bankroll management. A friend and I challenged each other to see who could turn nothing into the largest bankroll. I took the challenge seriously, so I started playing freeroll tourneys at Absolute in November. I shortly won $17, and have strictly followed bankroll guidelines since. I don't move up in limits until I'm at 400BB. That might be slightly extreme, but I play shorthanded a lot, so it is a comfortable number for me. I'm at the point now that I can play 2/4 limit, though I'm still refining some things at the 1/2 level. I'd recommend going through such a process to anyone. You learn an incredible amount of discipline and not to mention, your skills improve. I learned more struggling at the 50c/$1 tables than I ever learned playing at much higher limits. With some incredible patience and solid play, you can literally start with nothing. However, I think it would be wise to start with $100-$150, as you can actually feel some progress.

  10. Physically, I don't think I do anything, but scream at the computer. Wait, I take that back. I tie flies for flyfishing quite frequently. Other than that, I study stocks. I would like to put a keyboard next to my computer in the near future and work on blues riffs. On the same note, I've been wanting to learn guitar, so I'll have to decide which. Maybe I'll alternate days between keyboard and guitar.

  11. I believe this to be a very interesting arguement and have given it some thought. If IQ equates to memory, than I believe a high IQ to be an enormous asset at the poker table. Top players can describe hands that took place decades previous, down to the miniscule details. The more information we can retain on our opponents and situations, and the proper application of such information, the more we can potentially profit.Above IQ, I believe creativity plays a large role in a players capacity. Most people are either left or right brain dominant, correlating to analysis and creativity. The hightest level players are likely able to draw from both thought processes. Imagine the player that has a large capacity for memory, and the abiltiy to remember thousands of hands, situations, and opponents. Add to that player a high level of analyis capacity, taking mathmatics and combining it with reason to reach decision. Now, add to that player creativity, and the abiltiy to think abstractly, where thinking occurs on many levels. That sounds like a Daniel Negreanu, Doyle Brunson, Gus Hansen, etc. I have no idea what those players IQ's are, but I'm sure that these players are able to combine thought processes at a very high level.

  12. I personally prefer to play at the shorthanded tables vs. a full ring game. I've found that many players don't properly adjust their strategy in such a game. As stated in previous posts, proper decision compounded more rapidly result in greater profit.For those who are new to shorthanded play, I'd suggest the following.1) Those suited connectors we all love, don't have much value shorthanded. Toss them unless the table is soft with nearly the full table in the hand.2) High card value increases. It is suprising how often the high card will hold up at showdown. Hands such as A2, which are poor in a full ring game, become worthy of a raise shorthanded. The foldequity of such hands makes them very profitable.3)Aggression is magnified shorthanded. You need to be stealing blinds when opportunities are present. If your opponent checks, you need to be betting with your high cards. Don't get carried away with aggression, however. I see many players who simply raise preflop, and automatically bet every street, taking no account of their opponent. Aggression with control is a balance that must be worked on.4)Don't slowplay! You might be allright against a hyper-aggressive player checking the flop with trips, and checkraising the turn, but most often you should simply play your hand straight up. My only problem with shorthanded games is they can sometimes be difficult to handle when multi-tabling. Action comes quickly, so you can find yourself analyzing your situation on three tables simultaneously. I sometimes counteract this by playing two shorthanded tables and one full.

  13. Note to self: They don't check I.D.'s in VegasI'm 26 and get checked everytime...everytime I stop and pause better said. Of course, that might be because I look far younger than my age. I've contemplated just wearing my ID around my neck attached to a chord, and maybe then I won't get checked. Then again...maybe I sould grow a beard, but wait... that just isn't possible. I actually enjoy being ID checked though. I get quite the rise out of seeing peoples faces when they see I was born in 78.

  14. Great read booboom. In vegas a few years ago about 3am, I was playing craps for just my 2nd time. The table was empty with the exception of a lady who busted out. They handed me the dice and I went on tear of nearly 30 minutes without crapping out. About 5 minutes in, a player walked up and withdrew a pocket full of chips. I remember him looking at me and soon as he got the chance, he threw bets out on every number. As I continued hitting the numbers, he kept saying "press". He talked with the pit boss and signed a paper, while I had no clue what was going on. I was just happy about my $100 having doubled simply playing the pass line odds. It didn't dawn on my until about 5 minutes later that he and I were playing two different stakes. I was rolling for a high roller! About 20 minutes in, it happened. I rolled a ten. Then I rolled again and the point was at ten again. I roll. Ten. I roll the point. Ten. All the while he is pressing. He now maxes up the pass line bet. I ended up stringing 8 ten points and hits together. Granted, I was hitting a few numbers between, all the while making him a chunk of change. He and the dealers were in absolute amazement. I was naive and thought it seemed odd, but I was rather tranquil about it. On roll 9, the point went to 4. All the dealers started saying that now 4 was it! But that high roller wasn't a believer. He pulled his bets off the table, and was done. I hit the 4 and the dealers were saying "see" as the high roller settled his score. He payed no attention. The point went to 4 again, they all got excited, and the next roll, 7. He left and I decided to leave too with my winnings, which I was ecstatic over. He saw me leaving, walked up to me and said, "that was the best run I've ever had kid. You just bought me a house. Thanks." He walked away in his blue jumpsuit. I decided to go back to the table, where the dealers immedietly asked me, "Did he tip you?" I was confused, replying "no." They kind of shrugged and it was obvious they had been stiffed. The point man said, "sometimes they really reward a hot roller, and you definitely earned it." I really didn't think much about it, but count it has one of my great memories. I've always felt bad for those dealers though. I think I tipped them too much though in hindsight. shrug.

  15. Good story dead money. Reminds me of my opponent headsup on the pot limit tables last night. He talked me into making several "bad" calls with his chatter.A few players I respect (in no particular order)1) Milt- A very impossing figure, who looks as if he should be the bodyguard to some celebrity, rather than running intramural at the local college. Though he has never read books on poker, doesn't watch it much on TV, and would never dream of going to a poker forum, he has a very innate card sense. His style coincides with his image, with a contant barrage of raises and reraises. He figured out very early in his playing the advantage of being the aggressor, and that he is. That isn't what seperates him from the other players though. This aggressive style, combined with the ability to lay down hands, makes him a tough opponent. In tournaments he is out early or heads up at the end of it, usually with a dominating chip stack. If I were to pick a horse to enter the main event, he would likely be it. Milt organizes most of our home games and understands how to make poker fun.2) Rob C.- The new guy. Slightly older than my 26 years, and 3 kids in his young family, Rob started playing in our home games recently. I've seen many new players take up the game, but none quite like Rob. In a few months, I don't feel I'm saying too much by saying he is in the top 6 to 8 players of the 100-120 I regularly play with. He recieves criticism well and asks questions frequently. He quickly picked up the standard books and made use of them. Above all, he has amazing control. This attribute is what makes him a force. While players with more braun toss their chips steaming, Rob takes the beats and keeps building his stack. A more aggressive game is in his future and I feel he'll be tough to handle.A couple online players-On the lowest pot limit tables at Absolute Poker, you'll find a favorite place of mine. Despite having built a bankroll beyond that level, I have a hard time leaving the game due to the enjoyment of it (it can be surprisingly profitable as well). I usually follow up my sessions at 1/2 limit with some time at the 10c pot limit tables. Understandably, there are many fish, but I've been surprised to find several quality players as well.EDPUNK frequents these games and controls them. Some of my most memorable hands have had me facing a large bet that would be more common in a 50c NL game vs. this tricky player. I count him as a friend and opponent. His greatest skill is his abililty to analyze his opponents. His greatest attribute is his desire to learn. He is open to criticism and wants to know his mistakes.P...... (EDPUNK is fine with me using his name, but I won't reveal an online players name with authorization) P..... is a "big stacker" as I call it. A "big stacker" is a player who buys-in with the maximum or close to. In a game filled with "little stackers", I pay attention to the "big stackers". More than any of those, P...... has shown the ability to increase his stack. Many buy in the max and lose it quickly, and turn around and do it again. Not P....., he holds onto it, and is one of the top earners in the game according to pokertracker. He usually has the goods in big pots. His greatest skill is control. He fumes with the best of them when he takes a beat, but rarely does it affect his play. Very few weaknesses.1/2 limit-S.....- A tight-aggressive player that can dominate the game. He is capable of playing inferior hands profitably, even shorthanded, due to his strong hand reading. When in a pot, he is in control. He does a bit of trash talking, but is usually cordial and respectful to those who respect him. I don't three bet S.... without a solid hand and can feel at times, like I have no clue how good the hand I'm holding is compared to his. Live play-On my way to Vegas, I'll stop in a small town and play a little poker. One player there amazes me with his ability to read hands. He also keeps the game light and entertaining with constant one liners. Everytime I see him, I find myself wondering how such a player isn't playing at the higher levels. His greatest skill is his demeanor at the table, combined with lethal card skills.790 words3,428 characters8 ParagraphsDang, I need to learn to be brief

  16. We often discuss pro level players and disect their plays. For many of us, we watch a player like Gus Hansen, Daniel Negreanu, or Phil Ivey and we recognize genius. However, for the vast majority of us, our basic understanding of name players is limited to the hands we see on tv, and following Mike Paulle's blog. Very few have significant or any time on the table (yes, I am jealous SuitedUp) with these players. We also do not see them play games other than holdem, except for the limited world series coverage of a few other games. We don't see John Juanda's reported dominance of 2-7 triple draw. Therefore, who do you respect? Not the name players. I'm referring to the men and women you regularly play with. Those you know online, in your home games, and on the felt at the local casino. Why do you respect them? Do other players respect them? What skill or attribute stands out? Where do you stand in relation to that player?I'll see what each of you come up with and will let you know about a few whom I admire shortly. Note: Forgive me for posting this in the general section, but I just couldn't figure a more appropriate place.

  17. Lighten the censored up you overly pompus self righetous asses.Having an addictive personalit has been clinically shown to lead to becomeing a "born again" Christian, as has Pedophilia.I was just pointing out a simple fact.
    Sorry to offend you Smash. I can be an ass, I admit. I don't dispute your statement, but rather dispute your timing.
  18. Well, if he did check himself into rehab it would explain that whole Christian thing.  I mean no sober person could possibly believe that whackiness.
    What a sense of timing Smash. Completely tasteless humor at the wrong time. I've been a supporter and fan of yours, but this remark shows very little human understanding from a man who has tremendous poker understanding.
  19. I thought this was hysterical. My pre-flop capping with 8-8 is questionable' date=' but the guy that 3-bet me was a complete moron and capable of 3-betting with 7-6s.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------** Dealing down cards **Dealt to Jubba1 [ 8s 8d ']JJ_Miami calls [$0.5].murr1 calls [$0.5].reff76 folds.cheng8448 folds.Svetok folds.Riot20 folds.Jubba1 raises [$1].detoxafied folds.jonah28 calls [$0.75].TTzooted04 calls [$0.5].JJ_Miami calls [$0.5].murr1 raises [$1].Jubba1 raises [$1].jonah28 calls [$1].TTzooted04 calls [$1].JJ_Miami calls [$1].murr1 calls [$0.5].*I cap it pre-flop because of the overall stupidity of the table** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, 4c, 7s ]jonah28 bets [$0.5].TTzooted04 calls [$0.5].JJ_Miami folds.murr1 calls [$0.5].Jubba1 raises [$1].jonah28 raises [$1].TTzooted04 calls [$1].murr1 calls [$1].Jubba1 raises [$1].jonah28 calls [$0.5].TTzooted04 calls [$0.5].murr1 calls [$0.5].*I flop top set and it gets capped around.** Dealing Turn ** [ 8h ]jonah28 bets [$1].TTzooted04 calls [$1].murr1 calls [$1].Jubba1 raises [$2].jonah28 raises [$2].TTzooted04 folds.murr1 calls [$2].Jubba1 raises [$2].jonah28 calls [$1].murr1 calls [$1].*I guess the 4th 8 makes things a bit easier. But I'm still trying to figure out what the SB has and why he keeps raising me, especially w/ 2 8s on the board. Smaller set or a ridiculously over-played over-pair...** Dealing River ** [ 2d ]jonah28 bets [$1].murr1 calls [$1].Jubba1 raises [$2].jonah28 is all-In.murr1 folds.Jubba1 shows [ 8s, 8d ] four of a kind, eights.jonah28 shows [ Ac, As ] two pairs, aces and eights.*Oh, sucks to be him.... Still curious as to why he didnt' raise at all pre-flop. I guess he was trying to be cute and slowplay his Aces.Can I please sit at this table? That is a dream opponent with AA. Disguises it upfront, but goes on a cylindars when the board gets scary. I would have to go through my hand histories (too much work), but about a month ago, I was playing pot limit frequently and encountered a player that repeatedly slowplayed big pairs against me. No less than 3 times, I raised preflop and he called. I bet the flop and he called. I played the turn a few different ways, but in every scenario I had made a very strong hand on the turn or river and that was when he woke up and we would get all the money in the pot. With a board like T :) J :D T :club: Q :D 7 :) , this guy would would wake up on the river after slowplaying A :) A :D and put his money in, which was usually a larger than average stack for the table. Oh how I miss him.
  20. With your stack at $125 in a 2/5NL, you don't have too many options. You must raise coming in or see a cheap flop and be ready to fold to a raise. You simply don't have a deep enough stack to play the hand post flop without jeopodizing your stack. After you called the preflop raise, you essentially committed yourself to this hand if you hit. You could have bet out half the pot, but when raised, you would still have to call based on pot odds. Thus, going allin was your option, or a checkraise allin. Basically, your stack size in relation to the blinds and calling a raise preflop under such circumstances would be where I would alter the scenario.

  21. I was an avid sports fan growing up and if there ever was a Rudy, then I am he. Unfortunately, Rudy could sprint as the story goes. Me... I might just have the slowest 40 time ever recorded, can't lay up off my right foot, am about 155lbs. after I eat a steak, and one more thing... I have a rare condition called Mirror Motion, which means that my hands do identical actions beyond my control. To draw a mental picture, imagine a guy dribbling a basketball down a court with his right hand...now picture that same guy dribbling an imaginary basketball in his left hand at the same time... this guy has no control of that left hand, it just does it by itself. In short, I'm slow and terribly uncordinated, although I would like nothing more than to play middle linebacker and drill a running back dead in his tracks. Thus, poker provides me the competitive outlet that I could never gain access to in sports. For my personality, and various attributes, poker is an ideal fit. Experiences and circumstances in life have given me patience. Math came easy at young age, and it was the mathmatical odds of the game that initially led to my discovery of the game. Socially, poker has allowed me to meet and become friends with many whom I might not otherwise have crossed paths. I'm a fairly conservative person, and have enjoyed many a conversation with East Coasters at the tables in Vegas, discussing politics and such. The game of poker allows me to wear different masks, being rather maniacal one moment, and a rock later. I enjoy the process of getting into a players head and trying to grasp their thinking. The game of poker keeps me thinking when I'm away from the table or computer, analyzing hands and discussing strategy with friends. It perhaps this aspect that I enjoy most. I enjoy watching new players learn, and love to help that player develop with an open mind. Basically, I love this game. The money is a measurement and reward for due dilegence. I've played the game for fun without the money and unfortunately, it is not the same. The money is what makes the game tick, it is its heartbeat. The process of building a bankroll and progressing through the limits gives one a sense of progress. It always feels great when you first make your next step up. You're there at the next level, waiting for that first hand, while you analyze your competion. Can I beat these guys? Hell yeah.

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