I have no idea how many big bets an hour Daniel actually makes, but I do know that in games such as 4000-8000, the hourly rate drops significantly. Against the players they play against, just coming out ahead is considerable. A great player may make between 1/4 and a single BB/hr . He gave us a clue in his journal on December 23, 2004.Playing in a 4000-8000 game, he summarizes his results: I don't know what Daniel's idea of breaking even is, but for me, breaking even is making right about my BB/hr avg. So, in his case, that would equate to around a $5000 avg/hr.[/i]