shinzilla

Preflop is bad. The flop/turn play isn't bad.

I figure it's for pot control. Do you advocate betting the turn for value or as a kind of "value bluff"?

I don't want to sound like a dick, but this is one of the worst bluffs I've ever seen, considering you yourself defined villain as semi-passive. A c/r on the river from these opponents signifies great strength.

If calculus were as easy as question 1, I would've been a much happier camper back when I was taking those classes.

There's a "tournament play" forum. This forum's about cash games.

I'm still not confident that CRAI is the best option here. How are we doing against villain's perceived betting range here? Someone want to run the numbers?

Pot it. He has nothing (auto fold) or an ace (for most villains, an auto call).

I probably would've gone into c/c mode.

This is actually one of those rare hands that are posted nowadays in the forum that merits a lot of discussion. It's tough. b/c? b/f? c/c? c/f? I myself am uncertain what to do in situations like these. Obviously, if you c-bet, you're probably not going to get called by a hand you beat. Then again, if you check, you're leaving yourself open to get bluffed. I think c-betting's burning money for the most part, but for a balanced strategy, you want to bet there a small percentage of the time. I'd probably check on this flop and bet the turn if checked through. If he bets... then we have a tough d

Sorry, I'm just not folding this river. Not going to happen. Nope. This guy would have to be very, very passive for me to even consider it.

lol

In a vacuum... I really don't like the flop play. You're really going to bluff into three people? The turn is fine. The river... not so much. Are you going for the c/r on the river? I think villain will check behind a lot of hands on the river and you're going to miss out on value from them. Even if villain bets out with what is probably KQ, KJ, he's not going to call a c/r. Is this hand just to set up a loose image? Do you want to show this hand down just so people will think you're crazy? I'm not thrilled at all with how this hand was played. You need to bet the river.Edit: I'm an idiot and

lol lol lolsome of you guys would be so exploitable. why are you guys so scared? this is a blocking bet so often. call the turn and most rivers if bet, and bet the river if checked to.

Generally, this is a sign of weakness. It's a move intended to intimidate you. If you're playing a intelligent, thinking player though, he may know that you know this and be sending a false tell. Or he may know that you know that he knows... etc. But against your average live donk, it means weakness.

I agree with this 100%, especially the part about sizing your bets. So I guess I agree with it 120%.

It doesn't. Playing more tables can affect your hourly rate though, because your concentration's spread out between multiple tables, instead of just one or two. I wouldn't recommend playing more than 4 tables at the level you regularly play at, for this very reason.

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All-in.

You know, my decision on the flop would actually depend a good amount on the villain's aggression factor. This is a situation where PT really comes in handy.

Bet more on the turn. Definitely bet the river. And don't be results-oriented!

I'd do it for value, and it gives us some pretty good information as well.

I wouldn't rule out QQ, KK, or AA as holdings here. If this is the first time you've tangled in a 3-bet pot like this, I'd lean towards c/f here.

Just c-c the flop. In the case that we're behind, this will allow us to see the turn for cheap. In the case we're ahead, the villain likely only has four or five cards that can improve his hand. C/r isn't a bad option either for all the reasons Acid Knight mentioned. Playing these medium-strength hands OOP is really tough; I just hate doing it. If I were to play this hand, I would've 3-bet it pf.