CaseAce

Results: I thought for a few moments after the 4 bet. It felt like aces, but there was no way I was folding kings, and like we talked about, no likely flop was going to change the fact I was getting it in at some point, so I shoved hoping to keep AK involved. Villain 2 thought about it for a few seconds before kicking it in. Villain 1 then took about 5-10 seconds, and called. I felt really good at that point, because AA would have snapped. Flop came down with an ace, and suddenly I didn't feel so good. Turn and River were blanks. Villain 1 showed up with AA for trips.

I've noticed this too, and that was one of the reasons I was so apprehensive about getting it in here so early. It seems the only time I've seen competent players getting this many big blinds in the middle is when they have the stone cold nuts. I've noticed two types of players at the 50NL tables: Type A: The multi tabling, data mining, only playing the nuts crowd you mentioned earlier. They are either up two buy ins, or are sitting at the max starting amount because they reload after every hand that they lose a BB. Type B: Buy in for 10, fold anything less than a pocket pair or AK. Limp. Smoo

If that is the case, aren't you losing a ton of value here and not really gaining anything? If the AK whiffs(which it will most times when you hold two of the 6 outs) then cool, you won a 25 buck pot because you're probably not getting a cent more. Therefore you have to take in account the value(80 bucks) you lost by not getting him in pre, right? Also, its not as if you are saving money in this situation if he has AA, which is one of the 4 hands I narrowed his range to once he 4 bet. In that case, if an ace doesn't hit, you are still going broke. Does the money saved in the rare case the ace

Hey guys. Been a member of FCP since the beginning and have been reading all you guys for a while. Never posted though because I was always nervous the advice I'd be giving was poor and would accidently steer somebody in the wrong direction. Also, I never played online, so I felt as if my advice would be missing a key element. However, I just just starting playing online a few months ago, and could use some help in few situations. Hopefully with a little more experience(and winning) I'll feel comfortable commenting on other peoples hands with my thought process. Until then though, anything you