Hello all,

I am new to Omaha, I wanted a change from Hold 'Em and I really don't like playing Stud so I tried Omaha.

Firstly, I love Omaha. So many options and possibilities.

Anyway, I would like to improve my game. I have a couple of questions that I am hoping you guys could give me some insight on. Please answer from the perspective of limit omaha, thanks.

timwakefield if you are out there I know you are an Omaha junkie

1) Am I correct in assuming that omaha could be considered more of a drawing game?

2) Is it easier to get away from a hand knowing that the odds a person has you beat are greater? ie: 4 hole cards instead of 2

3) Is the best starting hand AAKK double suited? (I could have searched for this one I know )

4) At lower limits is it stupid to just see every flop regardless of hole cards?

Thanks in advance for your help and my apologies if this turns out to be retarded post.

Six

don't play every hand, play hands that all work together like, TJQK also suited aces.

If you play every hand you are going to be put to a lot of tough decsisions.

I mostly play Omaha tournaments, because generally I am poor at cash games, and some of these things I say might not apply so much to cash games.

The first and probably most important thing I'll say is that just because you have 4 cards does not mean that you are that much more likely to make a great hand. Everybody else has 4 cards too. Generally I play a small number of hands in Omaha, similar to the way I play NLHE. This changes if you are at a table where everybody loves limping every hand. If you are playing a flop with say 5 or 6 people, I would not get involved without the nuts or a strong draw to the nuts.

Here's some types of hands which might look good, but which I almost never play unless I am getting nice odds to limp from the CO or button: 6655, AQ75, AJJ2, QQ63, etc.

I'll post more tomorrow when I have a clearer head. Basically my main point is that pairs which are premium in hold 'em are not premium in Omaha. I'd much rather have 789T than QQ22 for example. Hope that helps a bit.

Also, I think AAJTds may be favored over AAKKds, but it's kind of a moot point...both are premium. I dunno which would be more favored against a random hand. Any AA is favored though, unless you are against a better AA.

Lastly, IMO position is even more important in Omaha than it is in Hold 'em.

P.S. I haven't read any books about Omaha, so my advice might be lousy...but I do pretty well in PLO mtts.

Edit: Another thing to remember is that if you opponent has just an overpair (say AA) and you have say 4567 on a board of J94, you have a decent chance of breaking his AA with two pair. He is still ahead though.

thanks tim, that's the advice I was looking for. I am going to be playing some omaha mtt tonight. I will probably try a couple $10 3 table SNG or something like that.

It all depends on how deep I go in the Midnight Oil tonight

thanks again

six

You playing on PokerStars? My SN is (surprisingly) TimWakefield.

I like to play very tight in Omaha, especially PLO. If you have 5 people to a flop and u hit bottom set and 3 people bet to you, I would probably fold. Especially if there are draws on the board. You can't bluff as much. Don't try bluffing in lower limit cash games and early in tourneys.

If the board pairs, its safe to assume someone has a boat, especially if there are more than 2 in the hand. You have 3 or 4 on the turn with 3 diamonds or 3 straight cards, it's safe to assume someone hit a flush/straight.

JMVHO

The logic of omaha starting hands is the opposite of holdem. In holdem you can play hands like 44 and 67s because they will win alot when you make your hand.
In Omaha, hands like 4455 and 4567 are dangerous because you will lose alot when you hit and lose (which will happen MUCH more often than in holdem).
The ideal hand to flop in omaha is a combination of a made hand + a draw to a better hand. That's one reason why something like 78910 is so strong. On a flop of 3 7 8, you have 2 pair + an open ended straight draw. This also explains why KKQJ is a lot stronger than KK84. When you flop a set of Kings, you will have redraws to a straight alot of the time.

no, I play on FCP and my SN (surprisingly) is -sixhands-




this is great info, thank you very much



also just what I was looking for, thank you

This is what you're really looking for.

You're welcome.

Those articles (the bet the pot ones specifically) are about the best possible way for a beginner to get the basic idea of how to play PLO.