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Naismith
Okay, let me say in advance that I'm not a great Omaha player. I'm trying to learn, but for now, it's part of the mixed game I play in live.

Here are the notables in this hand:

BB (525 dollars)
CO (800 dollars)
Button (275 dollars)

The button raised every hand that was limped to him. The last two times, the BB called and then bet the flop (with good hands) and the button folded. I am the CO with AdKs5d6s.

The button made it 15 and both of us called.

(Pot 50 dollars)

The flop was:

As3c4d

The BB bet the pot. I thought there was a reasonable chance he had two pair or a set. I know he re-pots preflop with AA, so it wasn't a set of aces. I didn't think he would've stayed preflop with 2-5. I called.

(Pot 150 dollars)

The button then re-raised all in for 210 more.

(Pot 410 dollars)

The BB called.

(Pot 620 dollars)

What's my play here? The BB had about 250 behind.
Vman96
I probably fold here. You may be getting 2 to 1 on your money, but the type of draw you have is not that good to hit/hold up against a set....which is a distinct possibility. You want to have wrap draws to call pot bets...not just OESD's. I highly doubt you're EV is greater than 1/3rd at this point.
Naismith
QUOTE (Vman96 @ Monday, April 10th, 2006, 11:27 AM) *
I probably fold here. You may be getting 2 to 1 on your money, but the type of draw you have is not that good to hit/hold up against a set....which is a distinct possibility. You want to have wrap draws to call pot bets...not just OESD's. I highly doubt you're EV is greater than 1/3rd at this point.


I'm actually getting 3:1 on my money, though, and do I count implied odds of the BB's last 250?
JacKingOff_suit
When BB first made a pot bet on the flop, it's either a raise or fold condition. Getting sandwiched sucks. I am more inclined to fold here because it's a 3-way pot, we don't know much about BB for his defending standards, and our draws are weak, straight draw, two back door flush draws but may need to dodge board pairing, and runner runner boat ( ~ 1% chance of completion) which may still lose and that's about it.

In fact, when you are facing a raising maniac like DN behind you, you should tighten up your starting hand selection. Fold this hand preflop when you know Btn is going to raise and you will be helplessly OOP. You really want hands coordinated (with gaps are fine) with suitness to go to war with them.
Kendren
btw: button overbet on the pot on his all in. He should have had 10 left.

but still... let this go. 8 outs + 2 bd fds vs their combined redraws ain't the greatest spot to be in.
Naismith
Thanks for all the responses. We knew about the overbet, by the way...they just allowed the extra ten.

Anyhow, I figured I played it incorrectly, but I did the math and figured I was getting a good price and called. The turn was the very nice looking 7d. The BB checked it to me and I made another stupid play...

...I put him all in.

I knew he had a set. It was just a silly risk.

Anyhow, he called.

The original all in said, "I have the nuts". I then said, "I also have the nuts". The BB said, "You have AA?"

The button flipped over the wheel (which, of course, wasn't the nuts) and the BB had a set of threes. The river was the Kc and I won the pot.

I don't like to be results-based, though, and felt like I might've made a bad call. I looked up the odds on Cardplayer and they suggest that I should've called based on the odds.
Kendren
It is a close call, I suppose. I'm just of the opinion that multi handed in PLO is a tough situation when all you have is a draw. You did have TP, but you know with this much action it's crud. If you were up agianst a set and someone playing x256, you were calling off on the chance to split. Results worked out nicely, but I probably would have gotten rid of it.
Wingmaster05
QUOTE (Naismith @ Monday, April 10th, 2006, 7:38 PM) *
The BB checked it to me and I made another stupid play...

...I put him all in.

I knew he had a set. It was just a silly risk.

Anyhow, he called.


That seems perfectly standard, why is that bad? Checking might make me gag a little.
Smasharoo

The flop was:

As3c4d


Raise, not close.

Good luck.
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