Preflop: econ_tim is SB with 8 J T 9
5 folds, MP calls, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, econ_tim completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.25) 4 7 8
econ_tim bets $0.50, MP calls.

Hey Tim,

Just a suggestion for when u decide to move to a higher limit. You should never play drawing hands up front, esp. in a 8 handed game. In every pot you enter, there exists the chance that you will gamble 4 your entire stack. Thus, you need position when drawing to the nuts.

This is esp. true when u are deepstacked. 1 of the most difficult spots in PLO is when you've commited 50% of your stack on the turn with the nut str8 & a scare card comes on the river when you're first 2 act. Avoiding this situation by not playing drawing hands up front will def. nurture your BR.

I know @ the limits your playing right now, this style works and can be v. lucrative, @ higher limits you generally only want to play ds pairs or ss broadway pairs upfront.

Kudos on the aggression, i think you got about 13 outs twice. but this guy probly has a made str8 so really 12 outs twice (he has a 6). i think overall this may be a little -EV.....but then agina there is the chance that all he has is top set (but even still thats unlikely cuz you got an 8).

I'm not sure I like it, even with the lack of knowledge on our opponent. I hardly every play PLO, so take my comments with a grain of salt.

MP has already committed more than 50% of his stack to this pot, so re-raising him all-in for the most part will not get him to fold. Therefore, why do it? Is it not better to call the bet, and see what the turn brings? If a scare card comes (ie. pairs the board), you save yourself $2.50. I understand you pushing after the flop takes away your positional disadvantage, but I don't think it works enough here to be a good play.

Make sense, or am I way off? 8)

Maybe I don't know enough about Omaha, but I thought every hand, even AAKK, was a drawing hand in the sense that no hand is strong enough to win unimproved against heavy action.

Big pairs do well upfront when u flop a set. If you are heads up, your opponent needs at least 16 outs to rationally call both your pot bets on the flop & turn, and even then you are still a 5-4 favorite in the hand as you still have 10 nut outs on the turn (provided there is no str8 flush killers).

When it is three-handed, the same logic applies, however your opponents may be drawing to the same hand, thus, holding e/o's outs. You could be a huge dog as well if their combined total of outs is around 21, however you will know this based on the flop texture.

The situation you need to avoid is when you've commited 25-50% of your stack to the pot w. one card to come. Your opponent will most likely know what you have @ this time and will bail out if you hit your draw, or bluff you if you miss. They also have the ability to move you off the best hand if a scare card hits.

Sorry for for not clarifying in the earlier post...this logic only applies when the money is deep, that's why I mentioned it for when you move up in limits. Online buy ins are extremely short, so you can get away with playing drawing hands up front until you stack a couple players.

Once you are deep enough in money that a check-raise will only be 50% of your stack, rather than all-in w. no more decisions, you need to avoid drawing up front. Playing made hands OOP is the more efficient route when the money is deep.