ThatPkrGuy
Tuesday, November 29th, 2005, 6:14 AM
ok so i think i probably played this hand correctly...maybe my flop bet was to much and pot commited me or maybe it was right...what do u guys think.
------HAND 1------
Game #1448251953: Omaha PL ($0.50/$1) - 2005/11/29 - 08:56:18 (ET)
Table "Maplewood" Seat 8 is the button.
Seat 1: Carribean ($75 in chips)
Seat 2: guttino ($115.50 in chips)
Seat 3: noizy ($25 in chips)
Seat 4: I_gamble ($64.75 in chips)
Seat 5: Hildus ($20 in chips)
Seat 6: gelen ($50.76 in chips)
Seat 7: Mandylou ($140.50 in chips)
Seat 8: CHIPPPY ($73.75 in chips)
Seat 9: EODguy ($139.50 in chips)
Seat 10: Rori ($84.87 in chips)
EODguy: posts small blind $0.50
Rori: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to EODguy [Ah Ad Jd 6s]
Carribean: folds
guttino: calls $1
noizy: raises to $4.50(very loose agro..raising with any hand)
I_gamble: folds
Hildus: folds
gelen: folds
Mandylou: calls $4.50(decent player...probably weak with no reraise here)
CHIPPPY: folds
EODguy: raises to $20
Rori: calls $19(this guy i was kinda clueless on..my PT gameplay notes have him completely in the Red so i didn't think he was that good)
guttino: folds
noizy: calls $15.50Mandylou: folds
----- FLOP ----- [2h 5c 4c]
EODguy: bets $65.50
Rori: is all-in $64.87
noizy: is all-in $5
Returned uncalled bets $0.63 to EODguy
----- TURN ----- [2h 5c 4c][9c]
----- RIVER ----- [2h 5c 4c 9c][Th]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
EODguy: shows [Ah Ad Jd 6s] (A Pair of Aces, Ten high)
Rori: shows [Js 3d 6c Ks] (A Straight, Six high)
noizy: shows [Qc Kc 3c Jc] (A Flush, King high)
Rori collected $119.74 from Side pot #1
noizy collected $77.50 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $200.24 Main pot $77.50 Side pot #1 $119.74 | Rake $3
Board [2h 5c 4c 9c Th]
Seat 1: Carribean folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: guttino folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: noizy showed [Qc Kc 3c Jc] and won ($77.50) with A Flush, King high
Seat 4: I_gamble folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Hildus folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: gelen folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Mandylou folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: CHIPPPY (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: EODguy (small blind) lost
Seat 10: Rori (big blind) showed [Js 3d 6c Ks] and won ($119.74) with A Straight, Six high
Granted i don't think my aces were all that strong with only one being suited and only one other high card...but i was trying to isolate "noizy"
So was i way off or did i just get unlucky here...i think both of there calls were horrible but that'll happen
....Ian....
Tuesday, November 29th, 2005, 6:22 AM
IMO:
rori is a money hemorager(sp) no comment needed.
Your play to me seems fine....you got enuf of your stack in there preflop to where you can move in on the flop.
noisy's hand would have been played perfect...but he has a dangler in his hand and he could be double suited to be even better. but if noisy had a 10 instead of a 3...then thats just tough sh.it. but it didnt his hand was poo-like. i may not even raise that initially...MUCH LESS call a reraise which is obviously aces
dont sweat it i think your play is EV+ long run
charder30
Thursday, December 1st, 2005, 12:30 PM
i personally dont like the pot bet on flop with that board, if it was more cooridanted with no flush draws than yes but your almost always gonna get called in a 3 way pot and there prolly gonna be the favorite....i also dont really like the rereaise preflop with the naked aces, i mean u bascially have to hit a set to win.... my 2 cents
nosoul
Saturday, December 10th, 2005, 7:49 AM
You definitely overplayed your aces. I don't think your hand was a raising hand before the flop. Only one of your aces is suited and the dangling 6 is basically useless. You're playing at most 3 cards of a 4 card hand. To me, that's not worth raising.
On the flop, betting with one pair and no outs isn't a good play. Even if you catch your set, you'll probably need to fill up to win.
While their calls preflop weren't the greatest, your raise screamed aces. So they knew exactly what they had to beat. They could easily fold a missed flop or double through you if they hit.
Having said all that, this hand basically looks like 3 holdem players playing with too many cards.
Rocketwadster
Saturday, December 10th, 2005, 8:01 AM
I don't like how you played pre-flop or on the flop.
Just having a pair of aces in your hand doe snot mean that you can pot it willy-nilly with just any cards to go with them.
That flop was not a flop to be potting it with your hand, especially against more than one opponent.
Deepkoncntrtion
Sunday, December 11th, 2005, 4:31 AM
Your stack = 140BB.
Initial raisers stack = 25 BB
1st callers stack = 140BB
Donkey stack = 80BB
U repot for 15% of your stack w. single suited aces.
Your preflop reraise here is not good. Granted, one of the best situations to be in with AAxx in PLO is to be able to put in a big re-raise before the flop, you must realize that in this case your reraise is not very large, less than 1/4 of the stack of your main opponents (except that 1st caller folded to your repot). You are out of position with an open hand (as your pf repot screams AA).
So what are better strategies?
1) Do not reraise, if you hit a good flop you are in good position to reap a big reward.
2) Min-reraise. Usually this does not help your case, but you will not be necessarily put on AA, obviously you can't or you would've put in the big raise. Occasionally, what will happen here is most of the field with call the raises, the button min-raises again and you can make the big push.
Lastly, if you put in occasional reraises with hands less than AA, when you have observant enough opponents who know that you are capable of doing this, AND you have good control of your opponent postflop, you do not give your hand away postflop. This is more applicable in a large-stakes live game however.
In this hand you obviously check/fold as the other poster's have stated.
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