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RISEorFall
Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP3 ($29.30)
CO ($111)
Button ($96.50)
SB ($355)
Hero (BB) ($129.35)
UTG ($51.50)
UTG+1 ($98.50)
MP1 ($52.20)
MP2 ($83.95)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A icon_suit_heart.gif, A icon_suit_spade.gif, J icon_suit_diamond.gif, 8 icon_suit_club.gif
6 folds, Button bets $4, SB calls $3.50, Hero raises to $16.50, Button calls $12.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($37) 5 icon_suit_heart.gif, 7 icon_suit_spade.gif, 3 icon_suit_diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $25....


no good reads. he's on a second table and up a decent amount there, too.
MaxStPolish
You have no suits and are widely gapped. You are effectively playing AA 90% of the time. Omaha is all about having 6 different starting hands that can play post flop. I think 3 betting preflop is a bad decision. I also think leading out for the pot into the raiser post flop is probably equally as bad.
Not that AA isn't bad, obviously, but when you have NOTHING to supplement it, it's a quite marginal hand post flop the majority of the time.
It makes sense that you would try and isolate with the pre-flop raiser with the 3-bet, which works, but you are OOP. You are pretty much blind here, because a thinking button is opening a WIDE range here, and willing to occasionally call the 3 bet with equally as wide a range as he's pretty much put you down for some sort of KK or AA xx combo and just playing the flop texture along with his cards in position, which puts you at a crippling disadvantage post-flop.

In short, I keep this pot as small as possible (call) to the flop, but definitely take a flop.
Shark527
I would not pop a dry AA here either. I would treat this kind of dry AA as a drawing hand hoping to hit a good flop. Your closing the action so just calling here is the best move I think.

The problems with your raise:

1). You don't really want a call with your raise. Your bloating a pot and won't have a good idea of where you are on a LOT of boards.

2). I think your making the hand easier for the villian to play post flop since your hand is now easier to read.

3). Your only looking to hit ONE hand of your six possible going to the flop.



As played, I would go ahead and bet full pot and expect to get it in here. This board is pretty good for you and I'd try to get as much money in as possible.
rrumsey
totally agree with both you guys above nailed it. just flat pre and take the decent odds to flop top set

PS - MAX! love the rap, keep that in your signature forever man!
Frez
Ya, as above, except I'm not sure I like this flop at all. You've almost turned your hand over by 3-betting from a blind, and even if you 3-bet more than AAXX (which of course you should), this flop is too low to represent the other hands you might 3bet OOP - say Kings or Queens with big suited kickers for example, or rundowns from 789T to TJQK.

Nothing that you are ahead of is inclined to call your flop bet and I think, and if you get repotted you have to fold.
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