recent live limit hand

background: table is very juicy we currently have 2 straddle rocks working on a 7 handed table players are for the most part competent due to the stakes but most are very much action players

I'm dealt AhKh in the CO there is a straddle and it folds around to me

I three bet

folds to BB who calls straddle 4 bets both me and the BB call

flop comes

Qs 10h 4c

BB checks UTG bets HERO: calls BB: calls

turn 8h

BB checks UTG bets HERO: raises BB folds UTG calls......


Opinions on the line anyone?

its ok you still have good outs to anything and could have AK still as outs not a horrible turn bet because we are live here but im thinking we are only safe if we hit the flush, if A or K roll off we flat river we flat his bet don't get into a raising war on the river with just a pair we could be up against a huge hand. This is the great thing about limit, you get odds to draw a decent amount. Oh and PS, we get 4-bet on turn we call and pray for the flush, we can't fold to that bet we have good odds.

Is it a 4-bet cap? If not, I'd 5-bet it preflop.

I think I just call the turn here. Straddle likes his hand, and while he could be bluffing, we beat a bluff.

I call the turn, and given the size of the pot, maybe consider calling a river bet UI, but that would need to be read dependent.

I don't think we fold him off of anything we beat on the turn. I think lower PPs probably give up and check the turn, JJ might peel because of the gutshot as well. We have a lot of outs, but raising is only good if we get him to fold a better hand often enough. If he's bluffing, like I said, we beat every bluff, so there's no real reason to get him to fold, especially since our fd+gs kill tons of his outs in that case, plus we could have his A or K dominated.

semi-bluffs are only profitable if theres a chance your opponent immediately folds (hence the bluff part)
since there is almost 0% chance he folds here, raising is bad.

im the middle of rereading some sklansky since i havent really had the internet for a couple months, and just finished reading this straight from ToP

i dont like your turn raise. let the bb stay in, its unlikely that you are winning this pot without improving.

and if there is a 5 bet cap then definitely kick it up to 5 preflop.

a semibluff can also be profitable if you have a chance at having the best hand.

what hands are we beating?
AJ maybe?

i didnt mean to imply that could be the case here.

What Zach said