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RISEorFall
Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($11.56)
UTG ($28.25)
UTG+1 ($45.42)
MP1 ($10.47)
MP2 ($29.05)
MP3 ($9.90)
CO ($13.20)
Hero (Button) ($35.59)
SB ($10.40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K icon_suit_heart.gif, Q icon_suit_heart.gif, 10 icon_suit_diamond.gif, A icon_suit_club.gif
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero bets $1.10, SB calls $1, BB calls $0.85, MP2 calls $0.85

Flop: ($4.40) 2 icon_suit_diamond.gif, J icon_suit_heart.gif, Q icon_suit_diamond.gif (4 players)
SB bets $4.40, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $17.60, Hero folds...


no reads, except that most of these guys are pretty bad. i'm assuming im against atleast 1 set and 1 flush draw.
Frez
Illustrating the advantages of playing in position, I think you fold this. Obv if your Ace is Diamond, you're all in, and I'd think hard about it if two hearts were on board.
meservery
QUOTE (Frez @ Monday, May 18th, 2009, 6:47 PM) *
and I'd think hard about it if two hearts were on board.

Insta-re-pot I believe if we also had a flush draw along with all the other stuff we got.
antistuff
this is a spot to make a good fold that a lot of people won't.
RISEorFall
QUOTE (meservery @ Wednesday, May 20th, 2009, 3:53 AM) *
Insta-re-pot I believe if we also had a flush draw along with all the other stuff we got.

yeah if i had the FD i'm insta-shoving.

i was gonna put the shortie all in with my TPTK and wrap, but the other guy screwed it up.
i figured the flush draw made my wrap much weaker.

what if the board was rainbow? we still fold?
jmbreslin
Easy fold with the diamond threat and that much action. Your wrap isn't quite as big when you consider the loss of the 9d, Kd, and Ad as outs.

As to the question about the rainbow flop, it's hard to say because the action would likely be much different. But even if you're up against a bare set, like JJ88, you're still a slight dog. You're in bad shape if one of the villains has a straight draw to go with his set (e.g., you're 36% against AKJJ). You're even a very slight dog to something like QJ87 on a rainbow flop.
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