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RISEorFall
Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.25 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($19.34)
UTG+1 ($24.12)
MP1 ($45.05)
MP2 ($8.90)
CO ($18.69)
Button ($25)
SB ($21.68)
Hero (BB) ($22.33)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4 icon_suit_spade.gif, 7 icon_suit_heart.gif, J icon_suit_diamond.gif, 3 icon_suit_diamond.gif
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 4 folds, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.75) J icon_suit_spade.gif, A icon_suit_spade.gif, J icon_suit_club.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $0.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.75

Turn: ($2.25) 9 icon_suit_heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $2.25, Hero calls $2.25

River: ($6.75) 3 icon_suit_heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $6.75, Hero calls $6.75

Total pot: $20.25 | Rake: $1.01



do i give him credit for AA/AJ/J9 by the river? i just started trying to game up this game like....last night, so no reads.
jmbreslin
Most players raise AA preflop, so you can probably eliminate that hand from his range. However, there are several Jxxx hands in his range that have you either dead or in bad shape on the flop and turn. It's possible he might be overplaying an A, but without a read to that effect you're better off giving him credit for a better J. It's a tough spot because I'm not sure I'd be able to fold the trips on the flop or turn. Of course you absolutely can't call the flop and turn and then fold the river when you fill up.
Shark527
He can probably limp a crappy AAxx hand in early pos. at a full ring table. This smells more like an AJ.

I fold turn cause even if you hit a kicker to fill up, it's worse than any other full house out there.

I call the river too as you played it.


If you just started playing this last night, try some $10 first and see how you like it before you start playing higher.
DonkSlayer
I agree that the big decision is made on the turn.
RISEorFall
QUOTE (Shark527 @ Monday, May 4th, 2009, 4:24 PM) *
If you just started playing this last night, try some $10 first and see how you like it before you start playing higher.

ive played a tad bit before, and i feel i have a better understanding of poker in general than anyone at this level. plus i'm rolled for a couple levels higher (i'm assuming Omaha is 20BI about like holdem, but i dunno)

i feel that even though im not a great Omaha player i still have a better idea of what i'm doing than most of the players i've encountered at this level so far. I will definately drop down if I lose a couple of buy ins, but I feel pretty comfortable playing this level right now. I've had good results so far, though it's only been a couple of sessions.
jmbreslin
PLO is the highest variance game out there, so be prepared for some big swings. Starting small and getting comfortable with the game first is probably more important in PLO than in any other game.
Shark527
QUOTE (RISEorFall @ Tuesday, May 5th, 2009, 9:09 AM) *
ive played a tad bit before, and i feel i have a better understanding of poker in general than anyone at this level. plus i'm rolled for a couple levels higher (i'm assuming Omaha is 20BI about like holdem, but i dunno)

i feel that even though im not a great Omaha player i still have a better idea of what i'm doing than most of the players i've encountered at this level so far. I will definately drop down if I lose a couple of buy ins, but I feel pretty comfortable playing this level right now. I've had good results so far, though it's only been a couple of sessions.


I hear its more around the 30-35ish, because it is a higher variance game.
meservery
The players at this level just can't be value betting a naked Jack here... So will this player Triple barrel with air here? Did you mention reads for this guy? can't remember.
RISEorFall
QUOTE (meservery @ Friday, May 8th, 2009, 9:29 AM) *
The players at this level just can't be value betting a naked Jack here... So will this player Triple barrel with air here? Did you mention reads for this guy? can't remember.

didnt have many reads, one of the first few sessions. there's a few regulars, though, but only one or two seem to know what they're really doing. Everybody else seems to be pretty straightforward weak/tight.
antistuff
i would lead at this flop

the same way i lead at almost every single paired flop
MaxStPolish
QUOTE (meservery @ Friday, May 8th, 2009, 11:29 AM) *
The players at this level just can't be value betting a naked Jack here... So will this player Triple barrel with air here? Did you mention reads for this guy? can't remember.


value betting??? Villian pots on every street...not value betting.

You gotta call this river as played. you don't fill up to fold here. If you think you're beat, as everyone else said, the turn is the time to pitch it. you've faced two straight pot bets. I can see why you might call here, but you 100% must call that river now that you've made your small boat.
SwolyswoND
QUOTE (MaxStPolish @ Thursday, May 14th, 2009, 12:48 PM) *
value betting??? Villian pots on every street...not value betting.


Potting is most certainly a value bet in Omaha.
antneye
A standard villain at PLO25 is not triple barreling without a J. Had we not boated up the river would have been a fold. Call now.

I would have bet/folded the flop with our ragged kickers. If he calls our flop bet, then B/F the turn. Being OOP sucks in PLO, but it sucks even more with janky trips. I really hate these hands. No matter how I play them I feel dirty.
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