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bmtphs05
What do most of you do preflop with this hand, primarily if it's raised to you?

Had this situation twice today online in a tournament.
MaxStPolish
QUOTE (bmtphs05 @ Wednesday, April 29th, 2009, 2:16 PM) *
What do most of you do preflop with this hand, primarily if it's raised to you?

Had this situation twice today online in a tournament.


I'll maaaaaaaybe call a suited A, especially if it's broadway suited....assuming im in late position and feel comfortable I'm not gonna get squeezed. But overall, it's a hand that I'm not gonna get involved with unless it's on the cheap......as the case ace, which is what your predominantly looking for, will probably kill most action unless a broadway straight is made since you have the other 3 monopolized. Beyond that or the magic flush/straight flop, your hand really doesn't play well at all, and plays horrible in a multiway pot.
CaneBrain
I think it depends on where you are in the tournament. (Cash games are different, obv.)

If you can get your whole stack in with a re-raise (or at least most of it) then why wouldnt you? Cant do much better than getting it all in pre-flop with aces (even if a set out is dead).

If you are still deep-stacked, then I think a fold is reasonable in a lot of spots. What X equals is important too (do you add a straight draw or a nut flush draw or both, etc.)
MaxStPolish
QUOTE (CaneBrain @ Wednesday, April 29th, 2009, 3:11 PM) *
I think it depends on where you are in the tournament. (Cash games are different, obv.)

If you can get your whole stack in with a re-raise (or at least most of it) then why wouldnt you? Cant do much better than getting it all in pre-flop with aces (even if a set out is dead).

If you are still deep-stacked, then I think a fold is reasonable in a lot of spots. What X equals is important too (do you add a straight draw or a nut flush draw or both, etc.)


I disagree, aces in this situation is going to often be no more than a coin flip to any sort of drawing hand (double suited, 4 way connectors, etc). Essentially, I think this response is ass backwards. If you wanna flip in a cash game, you can always reload if you lose. Do you really want to get it all in on a flip here? Especially in omaha where fold equity is dramatically reduced. You lose this flip, and your tournament life is either deceased or hindered (never caught the specs of your status). Part of this is based on my passive play as a PLO player....but in omaha, I'm looking to have 6 different starting hands. Sure you have AA, but you have 3 AA starting hands and 3 Ax starting hands. Very limiting.

If you were sure to get this heads up, I guess it's a fair play if you feel like you are going against KKxx or somesuch....but I hate this hand in a multiway pot, that's certain.
Shark527
QUOTE (CaneBrain @ Wednesday, April 29th, 2009, 1:11 PM) *
I think it depends on where you are in the tournament. (Cash games are different, obv.)

If you can get your whole stack in with a re-raise (or at least most of it) then why wouldnt you? Cant do much better than getting it all in pre-flop with aces (even if a set out is dead).
If you are still deep-stacked, then I think a fold is reasonable in a lot of spots. What X equals is important too (do you add a straight draw or a nut flush draw or both, etc.)



QUOTE (MaxStPolish @ Wednesday, April 29th, 2009, 1:37 PM) *
I disagree, aces in this situation is going to often be no more than a coin flip to any sort of drawing hand (double suited, 4 way connectors, etc). Essentially, I think this response is ass backwards. If you wanna flip in a cash game, you can always reload if you lose. Do you really want to get it all in on a flip here? Especially in omaha where fold equity is dramatically reduced. You lose this flip, and your tournament life is either deceased or hindered (never caught the specs of your status). Part of this is based on my passive play as a PLO player....but in omaha, I'm looking to have 6 different starting hands. Sure you have AA, but you have 3 AA starting hands and 3 Ax starting hands. Very limiting.

If you were sure to get this heads up, I guess it's a fair play if you feel like you are going against KKxx or somesuch....but I hate this hand in a multiway pot, that's certain.


I agree with both of you in these ways. If you can get most of your stack in preflop being reasonably sure it will be heads up, why not do it? Your about 60% over any hand he could have. If blinds were still pretty small relative to your stack, I would try to get in as cheap as possible. I would fold to a raise, especially if the X was suited to one of my A's. I definitely agree about playing AAAX multiway in a tournament.
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