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antistuff
Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha Hi/Lo, $2.00 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (MP2) ($278.15)
CO ($358.40)
Button ($47.65)
SB ($71.75)
BB ($95)
UTG ($40)
UTG+1 ($124.20)
MP1 ($174)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 4, 2, 3, 6
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $2, 1 fold, Hero calls $2, 1 fold, Button calls $2, SB calls $1, BB checks

Flop: ($10) 6, 5, 8 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, Button checks

Turn: ($10) 2 (5 players)
SB checks, BB bets $8, 1 fold, Hero calls $8, Button raises to $42, 1 fold, BB calls $34, Hero raises to $178, Button calls $3.65 (All-In), BB calls $51 (All-In)

River: ($241.65) 3 (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $241.65 | Rake: $3


button is a total nit. 12/3/1.6.

the BB is almost irrelevant, i do not think i should have even made the first call.

however, im not entirely sure. i know that if we were all deep this would be an insta fold. but how about the fact that we're not?
rvrchsrhtr
QUOTE (antistuff @ Thursday, February 12th, 2009, 9:46 PM) *
Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha Hi/Lo, $2.00 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (MP2) ($278.15)
CO ($358.40)
Button ($47.65)
SB ($71.75)
BB ($95)
UTG ($40)
UTG+1 ($124.20)
MP1 ($174)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 4, 2, 3, 6
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $2, 1 fold, Hero calls $2, 1 fold, Button calls $2, SB calls $1, BB checks

Flop: ($10) 6, 5, 8 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, Button checks

Turn: ($10) 2 (5 players)
SB checks, BB bets $8, 1 fold, Hero calls $8, Button raises to $42, 1 fold, BB calls $34, Hero raises to $178, Button calls $3.65 (All-In), BB calls $51 (All-In)

River: ($241.65) 3 (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $241.65 | Rake: $3


button is a total nit. 12/3/1.6.

the BB is almost irrelevant, i do not think i should have even made the first call.

however, im not entirely sure. i know that if we were all deep this would be an insta fold. but how about the fact that we're not?


yeah, this is an ugggggglllly spot for sure. If someone bets the flop you never run in to any of this, but after the turn not so sure. I guess you should have just folded to the first $8 bet then after BB calls the first raise I guess you just went ahead and pushed him in figuring your hand was good against his range? To me it looks like BB is on a made lo or possibly a made str8 on the high end I suppose, but def looks like he's stuck on a one way type of hand to me. Did you end up getting half the side pot and screwed on the main? (tis my guess anyway)

edit: a red ace on the river sure would have been nice
Tantalar
a -EV situation is still a -EV situation regardless of if it is deep stacked or not. The majority of the time here someone is free rolling against you.
checkymcfold
how do we like bet/fold flop, taking off a free card UI if we get called?
antistuff
QUOTE (checkymcfold @ Tuesday, February 17th, 2009, 11:35 PM) *
how do we like bet/fold flop, taking off a free card UI if we get called?


you know what, if this was .50/1 and not 1/2 i probably would have done that

QUOTE
a -EV situation is still a -EV situation regardless of if it is deep stacked or not. The majority of the time here someone is free rolling against you.


this size of the pot and the money left changes the ev of a situation.

would you ever fold for $1 in a $1000 pot?

Cappy37
QUOTE (antistuff @ Tuesday, February 17th, 2009, 9:32 PM) *
you know what, if this was .50/1 and not 1/2 i probably would have done that



this size of the pot and the money left changes the ev of a situation.

would you ever fold for $1 in a $1000 pot?


I've done it in tournaments. And been correct. I've even crawled into min-cashes afterwards. wink.gif But that's more like my last 300 chips in a 15k pot.. so that's still only 50-1.
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