dingas
Friday, December 5th, 2008, 5:38 PM
This was a 2-4 LHE game, six handed.
I was dealt AsJs in the cutoff.
UTG limped, 1 fold, I raised it up, button 3-bet, blinds folded, utg 4-bet, I called, button called.
The flop came Ks Jc 3s
UTG bets, I raise, button 3-bets, UTG 4-bets, I call, button calls.
The turn came
3d
UTG bets, I call, button raises, UTG 3-bets, I call, button 4-bets, UTG calls, I call
The river came
9s
UTG bets, I raise, button 3-bets, UTG calls, I 4-bet, button calls, UTG calls.
Dirtydutch
Friday, December 5th, 2008, 6:16 PM
Edit.
Dirtydutch
Friday, December 5th, 2008, 6:31 PM
I Stoved it, giving the Villains a range of something like AA, KK, JJ, AK, KJ, Ts9s, and you still have better than 16%...anyone think these ranges are way off?; those are pretty on-the fly.
Edit: obviously some of those are WAY less likely than others, though, and you'd need reads to say.
Dirtydutch
Friday, December 5th, 2008, 6:52 PM
Edit. I quoted instead of editing.
MovingIn
Friday, December 5th, 2008, 9:46 PM
How aggressive was this game? Were these two raising frequently?
Reads or not, though, I think one of them has a boat on the turn. I'd be all for a cheap showdown, but once UTG 3bets the turn, I'm sure we're facing a boat in a normal game. If we're talking two LAGs, however, that changes things. I'm not sure how much here, though.
Dirtydutch
Friday, December 5th, 2008, 10:29 PM
QUOTE (MovingIn @ Friday, December 5th, 2008, 10:46 PM)

How aggressive was this game? Were these two raising frequently?
Reads or not, though, I think one of them has a boat on the turn. I'd be all for a cheap showdown, but once UTG 3bets the turn, I'm sure we're facing a boat in a normal game. If we're talking two LAGs, however, that changes things. I'm not sure how much here, though.
My initial thought was that this is a boat 1000% of the time, but in an aggressive, Hero is so obviously on a big draw that KJ and AK or AA could all me doing this, to try to fold him out or punish him. It's usually a boat, though.
KoRnholio
Saturday, December 6th, 2008, 12:01 PM
One of the villains has KK here like always. I just call the river and hope it's UTG, so that the other villain just calls and I can showdown for 1BB rather than 3 or 4 on those times my flush is no good.
dingas
Sunday, December 7th, 2008, 6:59 AM
Does anyone think this should be a fold on the turn when it's two bets back to me? I agree that raising the river was not good - I guess I was on autopilot a little bit when I hit my draw.
MovingIn
Sunday, December 7th, 2008, 3:08 PM
QUOTE (dingas @ Sunday, December 7th, 2008, 6:59 AM)

Does anyone think this should be a fold on the turn when it's two bets back to me? I agree that raising the river was not good - I guess I was on autopilot a little bit when I hit my draw.
I think the answer to that question depends on how aggressive the two villains in question were playing at this table.
With no reads, I think you're done once the 3bet comes on the turn.
GCP
Wednesday, December 10th, 2008, 10:05 PM
I think you fold this turn for one bet with all those raises sure to come behind you. You're probably drawing dead and it's not like you have a made hand.
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