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DonkSlayer
Flopturnriver's FullTilt Omaha converter is still in beta and not currently working. Thoughts on all streets are fine. Table is pretty decent all around; I think they think I'm predictible.

Full Tilt Poker Game #9203689145: Table Macon (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 22:03:50 ET - 2008/11/27
Seat 1: RiskyMisfit ($66.20)
Seat 2: Markuu ($50)
Seat 3: msupimp ($108.55)
Seat 4: EZprophet ($47.25)
Seat 5: cdavi ($35.65)
Seat 6: JsBond ($50)
EZprophet posts the small blind of $0.25
cdavi posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #3


*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JsBond [Ts 8c 8s 9c]

JsBond has 15 seconds left to act
JsBond raises to $1.75
RiskyMisfit folds
Markuu calls $1.75
msupimp folds
EZprophet folds
cdavi calls $1.25

*** FLOP *** [8d Kh Ah]

cdavi checks
JsBond checks
Markuu bets $3.50
cdavi calls $3.50
JsBond calls $3.50

*** TURN *** [8d Kh Ah] [7d]


cdavi checks
JsBond has 15 seconds left to act
JsBond bets $16
bdc30
I'm confused by this whole post to be honest.

First, why are you check/calling the flop? Either lead out or check/raise imo.

Second, why exactly is this the "perfect" turn card? You pick up an oesd, true, but there are two flush draws out there as well and it's a 3-way pot. You're leading in to the guy that bet on the flop - what do you do when he shoves over and cdavi calls?

You put yourself in a bad spot here, imo.
staggo
I like your flop call because there's a ton of turn cards that you hate....I'd prefer a checkraise on the turn.
BudBundy
Please bet flop. You will get a lot of value from AKxx.
bdc30
QUOTE (BudBundy @ Friday, November 28th, 2008, 6:01 AM) *
Please bet flop. You will get a lot of value from AKxx.


not to mention flush draws, straight draws
Shark527
QUOTE (bdc30 @ Thursday, November 27th, 2008, 8:43 PM) *
I'm confused by this whole post to be honest.

First, why are you check/calling the flop? Either lead out or check/raise imo.

Second, why exactly is this the "perfect" turn card? You pick up an oesd, true, but there are two flush draws out there as well and it's a 3-way pot. You're leading in to the guy that bet on the flop - what do you do when he shoves over and cdavi calls?

You put yourself in a bad spot here, imo.


I can see flatting the flop to see a turn and for a little pot control, but you really need to raise to get this pot head up. Bottom set does not play well multiway.



QUOTE (BudBundy @ Friday, November 28th, 2008, 4:01 AM) *
Please bet flop. You will get a lot of value from AKxx.



QUOTE (bdc30 @ Friday, November 28th, 2008, 6:25 AM) *
not to mention flush draws, straight draws


This flop has so much potential to it. This is why you need to raise flop.
DonkSlayer
QUOTE (Shark527 @ Friday, November 28th, 2008, 4:20 PM) *
I can see flatting the flop to see a turn and for a little pot control, but you really need to raise to get this pot head up. Bottom set does not play well multiway.



This flop has so much potential to it. This is why you need to raise flop.


I dunno.

The only thing to worry about really here, IMO, was the position bettor on the flop having KK. Other than that, I didn't think any of the action dictated that my hand wasn't the best on the flop. However, that means no one is improving to a hand worse than mine, so for pot control I want to see a turn. The 7 seems perfect because if the villain that had pos on me did have a better set, I had a redraw, and popping big that turn, while being a confusing play to the other villains for sure, makes AK, Q high draw, 10J look not so hot.

I really hate leading this flop at 50max especially, in terms of looking for a winning session. You're basically hoping the board runs out 2c 3d (in which case only AK is paying you off on the riv and not beating you) and you have the worst full house if the board pairs something that flopped...b/c I had 109 in my hand, I really thought it was a perfect turn for me to apply some pressure.
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