wsox8
Sunday, September 7th, 2008, 4:26 PM
Here comes a general stud/stud h/l question. I normally play HORSE .25/.50 or .50/1
Generally, when I'm showing an ace, how frequently should I be raising? Obviously I'll be raising with a pair of aces (other pairs) or maybe 3 lows in h/l, but anything else you really do?. Should I avoid bluffing at these limits?
quadaces
Sunday, September 7th, 2008, 4:33 PM
At that level it is hard to bluff obviously.
But when you have an A up it also depends on the your other cards, situation and position.
wsox8
Sunday, September 7th, 2008, 4:40 PM
Full Tilt Poker Game #7980077369: Table Ball (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 Ante $0.05 - Limit Stud Hi - 20:10:47 ET - 2008/09/07
Seat 1: sharronc ($2.90)
Seat 2: tiltbot_v666 ($22.65)
Seat 3: jhoopes1 ($12.65)
Seat 4: redneckx ($4.95)
Seat 5: hache2zoo ($10.95)
Seat 6: applejuice16 ($9.75)
sharronc antes $0.05
tiltbot_v666 antes $0.05
jhoopes1 antes $0.05
redneckx antes $0.05
hache2zoo antes $0.05
applejuice16 antes $0.05
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to redneckx [Ks]
Dealt to hache2zoo [3h]
Dealt to applejuice16 [Kh 2c] [Ah]
Dealt to sharronc [7s]
Dealt to tiltbot_v666 [8h]
Dealt to jhoopes1 [4d]
hache2zoo is low with [3h]
hache2zoo brings in for $0.10
applejuice16 ........
Full Tilt Poker Game #7980061650: Table Ball (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 Ante $0.05 - Limit Stud Hi - 20:09:33 ET - 2008/09/07
Seat 1: sharronc ($4.10)
Seat 2: tiltbot_v666 ($22.75)
Seat 3: jhoopes1 ($13.10)
Seat 5: hache2zoo ($11.05)
Seat 6: applejuice16 ($8)
tiltbot_v666 antes $0.05
sharronc antes $0.05
applejuice16 antes $0.05
jhoopes1 antes $0.05
hache2zoo antes $0.05
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to hache2zoo [9h]
Dealt to applejuice16 [3d Jc] [Ad]
Dealt to sharronc [Td]
Dealt to tiltbot_v666 [Jh]
Dealt to jhoopes1 [5c]
jhoopes1 is low with [5c]
jhoopes1 brings in for $0.10
hache2zoo folds
applejuice16........
Full Tilt Poker Game #7980216304: Table Ball (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 Ante $0.05 - Limit Stud H/L - 20:21:22 ET - 2008/09/07
Seat 1: sharronc ($8.30)
Seat 2: tiltbot_v666 ($18.65)
Seat 3: jhoopes1 ($17.90)
Seat 4: redneckx ($1.45)
Seat 5: SoCoDevil ($0.35)
Seat 6: applejuice16 ($9.10)
tiltbot_v666 antes $0.05
SoCoDevil antes $0.05
sharronc antes $0.05
redneckx antes $0.05
jhoopes1 antes $0.05
applejuice16 antes $0.05
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to redneckx [5s]
Dealt to SoCoDevil [8s]
Dealt to applejuice16 [4s Js] [Ah]
Dealt to sharronc [Qd]
Dealt to tiltbot_v666 [3c]
Dealt to jhoopes1 [Ks]
tiltbot_v666 is low with [3c]
tiltbot_v666 brings in for $0.10
jhoopes1 folds
redneckx calls $0.10
SoCoDevil folds
applejuice16.......
sorry I couldn't get them to convert right now. Those are just 3 that I pulled from my current game, but they don't address all my Qs.
gfdsa146
Sunday, September 7th, 2008, 7:40 PM
Well if you've got 2K(A) and you raise, you do it in the hope that it would fold people out. Does this happen at .25/.50? No. You'll get called in 4 different spots by 77(2), 84(3), 85(2), and a stubborn QQ(K). Now what do you have? You don't have 35(A) or A4(A), you've got 2KA - which is absolute crap.
One of the very few situations I see raising 2K(A) that might be profitable is if you're in late position and the first one in with two harmless bananas to act - like a T and a 9.
Pdiddydog
Sunday, September 7th, 2008, 9:54 PM
Well if your at the lower levels take stealing totally out of your game as most are calling stations. Stealing works with a Ace up against tight players as well as good players (they will push back though). In Stud 8 like 146 said auto do it when you got a couple bananas behind you. In Stud Hi you can do it more often especially in late position with a lot of low cards behind you.
KingJames
Monday, September 8th, 2008, 2:24 PM
As said it is situational... the other two cards you hold, the position relative to the bring in, and the game matter a lot
I play a lot of .5/1 HORSE on tilt and I don't see anyone who calls the bring-in fold to a raise from an ace
So I strictly raise for value
Stud Hi
Split Aces with any other card is a raise
Wired pairs 9+
3 flush with one or no dead
3 broadway cards with no broadway cards up
etc
Stud 8
I suck at stud 8, but I generally raise with any pair of aces and if I have a broadway or 6 or lower all the better
once again look for 3 flushes and live & low cards
Razz- people think Ace-raises in razz are steal attempts, which a lot of times are, so if you do if for value with (6 2 ) A you'll be ahead of a lot of people who call with 7s and 8s
Raising for the sake of raising with an A won't get you anywhere at these limits
wsox8
Monday, September 8th, 2008, 2:37 PM
Thanks for the help guys. It looks like some solid advice.
gfdsa146
Tuesday, September 9th, 2008, 4:32 AM
QUOTE (gfdsa146 @ Sunday, September 7th, 2008, 11:40 PM)

Well if you've got 2K(A) and you raise, you do it in the hope that it would fold people out. Does this happen at .25/.50? No. You'll get called in 4 different spots by 77(2), 84(3), 85(2), and a stubborn QQ(K). Now what do you have? You don't have 35(A) or A4(A), you've got 2KA - which is absolute crap.
One of the very few situations I see raising 2K(A) that might be profitable is if you're in late position and the first one in with two harmless bananas to act - like a T and a 9.
I forgot to say that this only applies to stud 8
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