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thebenCA
I just made the jump from $.10/$.25 to $.25/$.50 and i'm finding the players to be much more aggressive preflop. Opponents seem to be much more comfortable playing in reraised pots. If open with a hand like 8,10JQ from the cutoff and get reraised more than half the pot size by the button (fairly regularly) I absolutely hate the idea of smooth calling from out of position. Here's my question:

What hand ranges should I be willing to shove with preflop when me and my opponents are sitting approximately 100BB deep.

I hope that question is specific enough.
bdc30
Why the need to shove anything preflop when you're deep? Get in AAxx soooted every time. Get in your middle wrap type hands when there are two other guys in the pot (hoping they have AAxx and AAxx). Otherwise, just call and play poker postflop.

When a guy 3bets you, he's probably going to fire the flop as well - you can get most of your stack in when you hit the flop, and just reload and move on when you don't. No need to get shove-happy preflop.

In the specific hand you mentioned, why would you do anything BUT call a 3bet preflop? Run your equity against naked aces. Folding is too weak, and 4betting is putting money in the pot as a 'dog.


http://www.propokertools.com/simulator/sim...amp;h4=&h5=
Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
8tjq 39.41% 235,460 2,011
aa** 60.59% 362,529 2,011
thebenCA
QUOTE (bdc30 @ Saturday, August 2nd, 2008, 4:35 AM) *
Why the need to shove anything preflop when you're deep? Get in AAxx soooted every time. Get in your middle wrap type hands when there are two other guys in the pot (hoping they have AAxx and AAxx). Otherwise, just call and play poker postflop.

When a guy 3bets you, he's probably going to fire the flop as well - you can get most of your stack in when you hit the flop, and just reload and move on when you don't. No need to get shove-happy preflop.

In the specific hand you mentioned, why would you do anything BUT call a 3bet preflop? Run your equity against naked aces. Folding is too weak, and 4betting is putting money in the pot as a 'dog.
http://www.propokertools.com/simulator/sim...amp;h4=&h5=
Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
8tjq 39.41% 235,460 2,011
aa** 60.59% 362,529 2,011


How does that change in a tournament situation? When we're playing 20 BB deep?
antistuff
QUOTE (thebenCA @ Friday, September 5th, 2008, 12:42 PM) *
How does that change in a tournament situation? When we're playing 20 BB deep?


the blinds and initial raise have put enough in the middle where you can afford to take the bad side of a 60/40 and be getting the right price.
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