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Merby
Villain is 84/27/1.37 through 147 hands. He raises *every* time it's a battle of the blinds and the SB completes (doesn't raise). He is obviously *very* loose, but plays quite passive postflop.

With our deep stacks and with me feeling that I could handle his post-flop play, I felt comfortable calling his PF raise (even OOP).

Anyone play this differently? (all streets)

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Hero ($1784.50)
BB ($755.85)
UTG ($309.20)
MP ($257.70)
Button ($210.95)

Preflop: Hero is SB with , , , .
3 folds, Hero completes, BB raises to $12, Hero calls $8.

Flop: ($24) , , (2 players)
Hero bets $22.8, BB calls $22.80.

Turn: ($69.60) (2 players)
Hero bets $52, BB calls $52.

River: ($173.60) (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $171.6, Hero calls $171.60.

Final Pot: $516.80
bdc30
Flop's missing a card, I assume it's a deuce though. I call. nh.
Young Turk
His play might be indicative of a big hand for someone who plays passive post-flop; he seems to be happy to let you bet and build the pot for him. Once you get cautious on the river, he deftly value bets it and draws the call. I wouldn't be surprised if he showed Aces or Queens in the hole for a higher full house.

Despite that, I have to be honest and say that I can't see myself getting away from it. If you're an aggressive Omaha player post-flop, he might think you're full of air and presume his lower full house of Tens is good enough (QT or T9 seem likely in that regard) - in which case you can take a very nice pot. I'd have pretty much played it the same, value-calling on the river due to pot-commitment. Mostly you'll take down the pot, but occasionally you'll run into a monster pocket pair. If he were a more tight-passive player (both pre-flop and post-flop) and acted the same way, I might have made a hero-laydown on the river...but otherwise, with the info you've given, you can't really get away from it.
simo_8ball
Bleh. This looks a lot like QQ or AA, but I pay it off on the river. Against someone that LAG preflop you can't fold here.

Against an aggro I think I might c/c turn and river. If you rep a scared KJxx you make more when you're ahead against an aggro IMO. You encourage him to make moves with weaker holdings like AQxx. Given that he's passive and is more likely to check behind the turn with a wide range I like how you played it.
Merby
QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Saturday, August 11th, 2007, 3:23 AM) *
Bleh. This looks a lot like QQ or AA, but I pay it off on the river. Against someone that LAG preflop you can't fold here.

Against an aggro I think I might c/c turn and river. If you rep a scared KJxx you make more when you're ahead against an aggro IMO. You encourage him to make moves with weaker holdings like AQxx. Given that he's passive and is more likely to check behind the turn with a wide range I like how you played it.


That's my line when he's aggro. Against this opponent, I felt that I was just losing value from that times he would have called with a worse hand here (I had forgotten to mention the time I saw him check the nuts from last position on the river in a 3 handed pot).

Bleh, you were right though... He had QQ here. I still think I would play it the same way if facing this exact situation again, but I just wanted to double-check with you guys.
BudBundy
Why did you check river?

Did you try to induce a bluff or did you hate to get raised and be forced to fold?

Because i think if he calls the turn , he calls a reasonable river bet while he is probably checking behind with AQ , KJ , QT , J8 type of hands.
Merby
QUOTE (BudBundy @ Saturday, August 11th, 2007, 4:33 AM) *
Why did you check river?

Did you try to induce a bluff or did you hate to get raised and be forced to fold?

Because i think if he calls the turn , he calls a reasonable river bet while he is probably checking behind with AQ , KJ , QT , J8 type of hands.



Good point. My river check goes against the read I had on my opponent. I have to admit that doubt had crept into my head by the river, and I decided to check for pot control. At the time, I was also "giving him a chance to bluff," but obviously an opponent who checked the nuts in last position on the river can't be counted on to bluff my pot for me.
simo_8ball
Yeah, I don't see him betting any hands he wouldn't call with given the passive read, so I think leading ~$90 is probably better. Lose less when behind, win more when ahead. I was caught up thinking about the c/c c/c line against a LAG.
iggymcfly
You definitely need to play this slower on the turn. As stated, a check/call would work against a LAG (since it really likes you have the straight and will fold to a bluff) or against a passive player, you should be betting less than half the pot. As played, the only hand you're getting called by that doesn't beat you is QT and that's going to be folded on the flop a fair amount. Try to rep a scared KJ and you can get called by another straight or by trips that are drawing dead.
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