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Actuary
Villain is very active, I ve olny been theer maybe 20 hands

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($25.50)
UTG ($47.80)
Button ($62.75)
SB ($20.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, K, J, 6.
1 fold, Button raises to $0.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50.

Flop: ($1.60) K, 2, 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $0.75, Hero raises to $3, Button calls $2.25.

Turn: ($7.60) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $5.25, Button calls $5.25.

River: ($18.10) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $10.75....

I feel so vulnerable...

I hadn't noticed him slow playing,...

How much to bet?
all streets.

thanks
sabes99
i think i just lead out and pot the flop, and hope he has an overpair...if you're gonna c/r that's ok, but then you should probably just pot it

bet the pot on the turn, you leave extra money out there when you have the best hand and charge draws more

river bet is fine, folding to a raise correct?
simo_8ball
I love the flop checkraise, but please just pot it (to $3.85 I think it would it be). It's simpler, and it's pretty standard.

Pot the turn.

I'm open to discussion on these points.

Don't bet the river. No worse hand will ever call you. Ever. Check and see what he does. The only draw on the flop missed (345), but your hand is pretty weak at this point. I might c/c, I might c/f. I don't know yet. LAGs are tough to play against, especially OOP.
Actuary
QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Thursday, July 12th, 2007, 5:06 PM) *
No worse hand will ever call you. Ever.


*marking the tape*
bassplayer45459
This situation comes up alot. Pot the flop, i always pot the flop in this situation with the two-pair you have, or top two pair.
With the turn, i think the hands you both have never improved, either he has you beat with top two pair, or he has an over pair. It is very possible a scared pocket aces are calling here, but the river. I check and go into the tank, tough decision. Everything else you did was fine
sabes99
QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Thursday, July 12th, 2007, 5:06 PM) *
Don't bet the river. No worse hand will ever call you. Ever. Check and see what he does. The only draw on the flop missed (345), but your hand is pretty weak at this point. I might c/c, I might c/f. I don't know yet. LAGs are tough to play against, especially OOP.


i don't know, i think we might get called by some random smaller two pair...but 99% of the time i guess you're right, c/c or c/f is probably the best play
simo_8ball
QUOTE (Actuary @ Friday, July 13th, 2007, 2:10 AM) *
*marking the tape*

Oops.
BudBundy
QUOTE (sabes99 @ Friday, July 13th, 2007, 3:46 AM) *
river bet is fine, folding to a raise correct?


We have 6$ left on river , we can't fold to anything.

I don't really like river bet. Are we bluffing? Are we value-betting?

If check/callers are willing to call a 6$ bet on river , Maybe we can launch a donkish move here like betting 5.75$. He is raising with JT. He is probably calling with Aces. Downside is he is calling with KQ and probably K9. But if we check he will probably bet more than 6$ and we will be tempted to call. So if we are willing to call a 6$ bet on river , why don't we bet it ourselves? We may get a call from a worse hand (aces) , we may get a fold from a better hand (K9). I am not sure this is a good move tho , haven't thought much about it.

Discuss?
simo_8ball
QUOTE (BudBundy @ Friday, July 13th, 2007, 1:21 PM) *
We may get a call from a worse hand (aces) , we may get a fold from a better hand (K9)

The definition of a value bluff. You have no idea what villain has, you don't know why you're betting, you just bet for the sake of it.

I'm not sure what the best line is.
BudBundy
QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Friday, July 13th, 2007, 3:55 PM) *
I'm not sure what the best line is.


That leaves us only one option ;

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Actuary
he called down with AA and no oesd anywhere
simo_8ball
QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Friday, July 13th, 2007, 2:06 AM) *
Don't bet the river. No worse hand will ever call you. Ever.
QUOTE (Actuary @ Friday, July 13th, 2007, 11:32 PM) *
he called down with AA and no oesd anywhere
QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Friday, July 13th, 2007, 9:41 AM) *
Oops.


I was wrong, but I maintain that you were incredibly lucky. Brain-damaged plays appear at random times.
sabes99
QUOTE (BudBundy @ Friday, July 13th, 2007, 4:21 AM) *
We have 6$ left on river , we can't fold to anything.


i need to read these hands closer, i continue to look like an idiot

if so, then forget everything i said about betting and c/c

and yes, you were probably pretty lucky to have the best hand
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