BaseJester 1 Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 I think this is why we want maniacs on our left.Hold'em No Limit ($2.00/$4.00) - 2008-07-18 22:33:00Table 'Clencoe' 9-maxSB $426.00)BB ($310.00)UTG ($230.82)UTG+1 ($218.95)BaseJester ($394.00)Maniac ($400.00)hijack ($230.00)cutoff ($400.66)Button ($903.50)preflopUTG raises $10.00 to $14.00. UTG+1 folds.BaseJester calls $14.00 with Q Q . Maniac raises $46.00 to $60.00.3 folds. SB calls $58.00. BB folds. UTG calls $46.00.BaseJester: ?? Link to post Share on other sites
Vinny_Barberino 0 Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 I think this is why we want maniacs on our left.Hold'em No Limit ($2.00/$4.00) - 2008-07-18 22:33:00Table 'Clencoe' 9-maxSB $426.00)BB ($310.00)UTG ($230.82)UTG+1 ($218.95)BaseJester ($394.00)Maniac ($400.00)hijack ($230.00)cutoff ($400.66)Button ($903.50)preflopUTG raises $10.00 to $14.00. UTG+1 folds.BaseJester calls $14.00 with Q Q . Maniac raises $46.00 to $60.00.3 folds. SB calls $58.00. BB folds. UTG calls $46.00.BaseJester: ??pushes? Hasn't the SB and UTG (especially) already defined their hands to hands you are ahead of by cold calling his raise? The only person who can have a monster right now is the maniac, and since we classify him as such, shouldn't it narrow the chances? You are either gonna take that money in the middle or get it in good here like everytime except the few times you picked the wrong hand to pick off the maniac and he has Kings or Aces. Link to post Share on other sites
Metternich 0 Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 3-bet the initial raiser? Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 shoves and reloads play mobnies Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 3-bet the initial raiser? shoves and reloads play mobnies Link to post Share on other sites
BaseJester 1 Posted July 19, 2008 Author Share Posted July 19, 2008 3-bet the initial raiser?The maniac has played 2/3 and raised half the hands so far. I don't want to show the strength of my hand to the rest of the field in case the maniac raises. That is, I want the field to call against his 3-bet range, not mine. Plus I get to see what they do. Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 The maniac has played 2/3 and raised half the hands so far. I don't want to show the strength of my hand to the rest of the field in case the maniac raises. That is, I want the field to call against his 3-bet range, not mine. Plus I get to see what they do.Ok, you do realize that when you slowplay very vulnerable hands like QQ multiway you're just asking to lose money? Betting things yourself is just never wrong when you're strong. If lagtard folds and 6 people call behind, you're SOL. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 The maniac has played 2/3 and raised half the hands so far. I don't want to show the strength of my hand to the rest of the field in case the maniac raises. That is, I want the field to call against his 3-bet range, not mine. Plus I get to see what they do.Let's follow through with the plan and push here. We're only worried about Maniac...and we're not that worried about him. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 Let's follow through with the plan and push here. We're only worried about Maniac...and we're not that worried about him. Link to post Share on other sites
BaseJester 1 Posted July 20, 2008 Author Share Posted July 20, 2008 I used the bet pot button, which left a hundred few dollars. The flop came low cards. I pushed and maniac called with AK. Even maniacs can have good hands. Link to post Share on other sites
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